It’s silly, you’re just thinking that somehow this time will be different.

it’s a tactic which relies on public trends, and we are not trend chasers, we are niche users.

Maybe you are, but most people aren’t. With XMPP, I was similar, running my own server. I didn’t jump to GTalk, but it still ended up with me shutting it down after I ended up to be the only person on my rooster.

WHY?

Would YOU really jump into Threads?

I don’t, but I’m not the most people. I didn’t jump with XMPP, but it still killed it for me.

Who is this person that you imagine that dropped Facebook and Twitter, but will jump right back as soon as they so much as see it again.

Such a person wouldn’t even be here to begin with, They would already be there.

I think you believe that everyone on fediverse is for the same reason as you are. Though I even doubt that, it’s ironic, since you’re here for 9 months, so you arrived here because of the API change. Don’t you think if it was about principle you would be here much earlier than that? Add to it that you’re still quite active on reddit, so you’re lying to yourself and (at least from the outside) it looks like likely you would be one of those people.

You mention EEE and forgetting how it works in next paragraph.

• Embrace - facebook joins fediverse, existing users rejoice because now the user base was added with threads users
• Extend - facebook starts adding proprietary features to their product, many users start switching, because if they use threads.net they can have the new features AND still have access to the entire network
• Extinguish - facebook comes to conclusion that there’s not many users on fediverse anymore, and being compatible only holds them up, so they disconnect, suddenly it gets very silent on fediverse, some people will jump to threads.net, because their friends are there, others will quit completely eventually making the network even emptier

This exact thing happened with Jabber/XMPP and it was also realization that vast majority of people are not loyal to some ideals and will switch to whatever works for them. Companies absolutely hate to have product they can’t fully control.

Exactly, let’s not repeat the history.

The so great (at the time) Google that was so friendly to users (at the time), destroyed Jabber/XMPP that way.

Opera once wasn’t as shady and had their own engine. It was quite snappy and low on resources.

It is a shame they didn’t open source their engine when they switched to Chrome.

Someone leaked the source code, but of course no one serious will touch it.

Gecko (Firefox engine) already is worked on, why not contribute there instead of losing community? If anything why those browsers use engine that is controlled by a single company?

Yes, please. We can’t expect anything good coming from them.

Last time we were burned (or at least I am aware of) was with Jabber and Google Talk.

It helped them bootstrap their instant messaging, and once everyone was using it they simply blocked access.

It is pretty much guaranteed that Facebook will do the same thing.

I think BeeHaw when trying to be a welcoming community and disabling down votes is shutting itself in the foot (e.g. the large numbers of users joined those instances of lemmy, but BeeHaw users could do nothing when they started attacking them.

The upvote only works well when the community is small or when you want to tune the network into increasing engagement (see Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, they know that users not being able to downvote will cause controversial topics go up, and those cause higher engagement).

I am divided, because I also feel like you that maybe this is too much and feels like I’m now needing another account to be able use other communities, but I also do appreciate the effort to trying to have a friendly community. I do think long term this will be harder and harder to manage though…