• Qwel@sopuli.xyz
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        If he did, it wouldn’t make things any better. Don’t even give them the idea. “Look, I have nothing to fear from the cops because I agree with the cops, be like me, and nothing bad will happen”

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    Who is pushing this? We need names of the people, names of the companies, names of the think tanks, they need to be made publicly known.

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    Oh for fuck sake… Do they not get the fucking memo?

    WE, THE PEOPLE, ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THIS BULLSHIT PROPOSAL.

    Specially since they want the control to not apply to them. Pieces of shit, the lot of them.

    I am of the opinion that politicians like these should be bullied relentlessly. Make them not be able to leave their house without getting “buus” thrown into their face. Want to be hierarchically superior than your constituents? Well, guess what, you will not be able to show up in public places. Piece of shit. This also applies to billionaires.

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      Unfortunately they don’t give a shit what the people want.

      I agree they should be held accountable for working against the people they’re supposedly representing, at the very least we should be able to keep them out of positions of power in the future.

      It’s messed up they can keep doing this shit seemingly without consequences

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    Denmark is a US puppet. This is legalising backdoors for three letter agencies from across the pond.

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      I can totally see a scenario where the US government tells them “keep pushing chat control or we’re going to invade Greenland.”

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    Why not make it a felony to propose laws that are ruled to be “obviously unconstitutional”? A citizen can go to jail for even trying to break a regular law, so it seems reasonable to do the same for politicians who try to break one of the foundational laws

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    I propose this law:

    Ban politicians from trying to do this shit AND strengthen privacy laws and throttle data collection. Allow anonymous SIMs and phone calling. You might ask 'but what about drug dealers and terrorists?" Trust me, they’ve been able to handle them before without any of these bullshit laws, AND if they have a REASON to suspect those individuals then due process can be applied, warrants, and shit like that. But for the average person, no.

    The Patriot act and many of the anti-terror laws passed in wake of 9/11 need to be gotten rid of, they have had no discernible good effect. I have to repeat myself… the fact that 9/11 wasn’t foiled was due to a MONUMENTAL intelligence failure. They had warnings, tips, intelligence, everything they needed to stop the ploy, but they just sat on their asses and did nothing. The whole ‘we need laws to help prevention, to be proactive and not reactive’… dude, intelligence agencies foiled plots before any of these laws were passed, and they CAN be proactive if they want. Conspiracy to commit a crime IS a crime, and that included hijacking airplanes to use as weapons.

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    Could this voluntary chat control be a weapon to kill encrypted messaging, through defamation?

    If the non-encrypted messaging apps start promoting that they have implemented measures to protect children, could this be used to make people believe that other services support child abuse?

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      Possibly, their only choice in furthering their evil ambitions is manipulation. It’s only natural they will play the blaming game once they’re situated in - authoritarianism is all about it.