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    EU officials are, incidentally, exempt from chat monitoring – which is quite convenient for someone like von der Leyen. Their communication is explicitly NOT to be monitored. The mere fact that those who drafted this law don’t want it to apply to them tells you everything you need to know about it.

    https://x.com/martinsonneborn/status/1995182586612609241

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      These pathetic morons think they’ll be safe through this exemption. In reality these deliberate security holes will affect everyone. How will these morons be safe when every person they have contact with IRL is a walking microphone for every foreign intelligence agency?

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      So you’re telling me the one person who’s been making deals behind closed doors (illegal), and then ‘accidentally’ deleting all messages regarding said deals (also illegal) will be exempt from having all their communication scanned?

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    people miss the most important problem with this. chat control is a fascist tool that can and will be used against us minorities. this is especially dangerous when more and more countries are starting to lean right.

    hitler would have had a field day with this kind of tech.

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      It also makes what the Stasi in Socialist East Germany did to its citizens look harmless in comparison. It’s literally Big Brother, but you carry him around with you.

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      All nations are following North Korea’s lead.

      North Korea is a testing ground to see what rulers can get away with. It won’t be long until every country operates like it.

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        Isn’t North Korea already a dangerous dictatorship with its citizens in a vice? I don’t think their benevolent leader needs to “get away” with any of the shit he does at this point, or what do you say? Is there any chance of overthrowing him?

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    Everyone who originally proposed this or otherwise helped in drafting this should be thoroughly investigated under suspicion of foreign affiliation. Chat Control doesn’t just start the EU’s transformation into a surveillance state. It also weakens its digital defenses. No matter how you look at it, this is treason both towards the European people, as well as towards the individual countries and the Union as a whole.

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    misleading headline, this isn’t a list of countries in which the law will (if it passes) be different (it won’t be, it’s an EU law, so will be the same in all EU countries), it’s a list of countries that currently support/oppose the law

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      It isn’t misleading (that’d be a technically true headline, which this isn’t). This is a downright lie, or as some might say, “fake news”.

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      (it won’t be, it’s an EU law, so will be the same in all EU countries)

      This is not true btw. It’s not a mandatory law, and if you read the news about this the last 3 weeks, you would know that.

      EU laws are not automatically mandatory. That’s not how it works at all.

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        The law will be the same in all EU countries, including whichever parts you think will be “not mandatory” (I did read those news articles and am fully aware that mandatory scanning is no longer on the table).

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    The one good thing of brexit: UK isn’t beholden to this.

    The bad thing is that their own laws aren’t much better. And of course all the other brexit bad stuff

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      From the Online Safety Act Wikipedia page:

      The act also requires platforms – including end-to-end encrypted message providers – to scan for child pornography and terrorism content, which experts say is not possible to implement without undermining users’ privacy.

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    I’m missing a bit the fact that this is not a law yet. This is the position of the commission, which the parliament will then need to approve and has to get past the ECHR as well most likely.

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    Wow, this is bad. I thought this was over when Germany chose not to support it. Apparently not!

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    It’s kind of unclear what “voluntary” means. Is it voluntary for countries to enforce? Is it voluntary for companies to scan chats?

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      The later. However, they could still be fines for not doing what is needed to reduce “the risks of the of the chat app”, whatever the fuck that can mean when talking about illegal.content

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    Welp guys, looks like I’m moving to [insert country without that sh*t] (TBD). Or atleast my router is.

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      The implementation is client-side, so this wouldn’t work. It forces all apps to have a client-side backdoor.

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    I’m 99% sure this was made to combat people sharing CP on Matrix.

    Does anyone know if it will have any effect?