First: It’s funny, because it is happening to Russians
Second: It’s fucking scary, because it can happen everywhere. Fuck cars that rely on digital services.
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The six miles of vacuum tubing under the hood will absorb most of the crash energy.
I’ll keep my unkillable Gen 2 Prius. 281,000 miles on the odometer, original engine, replaced the hybrid battery a few years back with a brand new one from Toyota (that I installed myself after convincing a dealership to just sell one to me) and knock on wood, but that’s the last maintenance item I’ve even had to spend any money on.
Too bad quality dropped off after the Gen 2 years.
I had a gen 2. I only got rid of it because I had kids and needed a bit more space. That thing was reliable asf. I did the struts on it once which was a bit of a pain in the ass (you have to disassemble a lot of the interior to get to the top nut) other than that, the only thing I ever did was oil and brakes and had 0 issues. Thankfully I avoided catalytic converter theft which is a huge problem with those in CA. My next car (Lexus Rx hybrid) I wasn’t so lucky.
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I have a 2014 and a 2017 with no required connections. Your point?
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Saying you bought a 79 because it isn’t connected is idiotic.
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Good for you, now let us see you do it again with a '25
first they disabled Russian porsches and I didn’t care because I am not a russian owner of a porsche.
then they came for Ukrainian tractors and I didn’t care because I am not an Ukrainian owner of a tractor.
then step by step everything was digitally locked and I owned nothing and I was not really happy.
Just got a dishwasher and it doesn’t even have an app. How can that be?
are you from the past?
[…] and what owners can do next.
Sell their Porsche and buy a car that can’t be locked remotely?
Sell them to whom?
Recycling companies?
It’s even worse than that. Porsches are locked by default, and can only be enabled remotely.
sell to who?
Yeah has a bit of those Ben Shapiro vibes.
Don’t you think people would sell their houses on the coastline and move?
I doubt most owners of recent-model luxury-brand cars in Russia are average joes for which this is their only transport. I therefore find my sympathy to be somewhat limited.
Vehicle Tracking System (VTS) — a security module designed to prevent theft but now shutting down cars unexpectedly.
Also, what a strangely written article.
Owners welcomed theft deterrent like that. OnStar is probably the main original US service, found in GM cars. I think Subaru picked them up at some point, but basically all new cars have the option to have manufacturer tracking and app-based vehicle connections for remote start, tracking, service alerts, diagnostic uploads, etc
Maybe Russia started jamming satellite signals and did this to themselves.
“smart” cars
Good thing this is a completely optional “feature” that I’d never pay for
Why not do cars need internet access in order to start?
I understand having auxiliary services the network connected but surely the failure mode should just be an error on the screen but otherwise the car should still function. It’s not like operating without internet access is dangerous or anything.
Also, why don’t we just do that, cut Russias internet access, it seems like it would cause utter chaos.
As for “cut russias internet”, I imagine they have a lot of services hosted on their own infrastructure within Russia.
Of course probably a lot of people use western services like social media and e-commerce. Which would piss off a lot of Russian people. So you could have western governments require sanctions on services to reject Russian traffic.
One of the downsides though is there are probably a lot of people who disagree with the regime and want to get info in and out. You push them closer to isolation like North Korea. So called “winning of hearts and minds” might be better served by keeping things open.
But what do I know.
Because it was the anti theft system and immobilizer.
It would be pretty useless if it could be defeated by putting some foil on the antenna so that it loses network connection and defaulted to allowing you to drive.How does it validate that you are a valid driver? Do you enter a PIN or something?
With your personal vehicle access device, aka, the car key. Immobilizers with transponders in the key have been a thing (and in some places a legal requirement) for like three decades.
They’ve just gotten more aggressive now with “keyless” entry and being able to use your phone as your key, so some validate that info in real time - no network, no access. (Up to a point. They won’t immediately strand you just because you ran out of cell coverage obviously, but apparently Porsche did enforce some part of their system to that point)
I wish people (especially journalists) would get it through their skulls already:
- Vehicles don’t communicate with satellites.
- GNSS (like GPS, GLONASS, Galileo, or BeiDou) do not use two way communication.
- The satellite can therefore not know the position of a GNSS receiver.
- Instead the satellites send timestamps and their positions, the receiver uses that information to calculate its own position. If the system with the receiver needs to report its position to someone they typically use some form of terrestrial communication, like mobile phone networks.
With that knowledge the comment by /u/imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com makes a lot more sense than whatever the article is trying to imply about satellite failures.
Where are the accident videos? Russian drivers are shit and a Porsche losing power turns into a target.
