oh it was a bug, i thought they did it on purpose to force people to use their stupid ai crap.
Even Microsoft (probably) isn’t that stupid or desperate yet. What seems much more likely to me is that they will keep introducing AI features and more invasive ads gradually and making them opt-in or removable with the intention of making them mandatory later on.
I 100% believe that Microsoft fully understands that a lot of people aren’t happy with most of these changes, but profit must grow and they are elbow-deep in their AI gamble so they must keep pushing just slowly enough to avoid most users and businesses feeling like looking for alternatives is worth the effort. They are treading a fine line and are sometimes pushing too hard, but that in itself can be a solid negotiation tactic to manipulate people into accepting bad deals and my guess is that it’s fully intentional.
I hate Windows as much as the next person, but the title is clickbait. It’s an update bug that affects a small number of users, but the title misleadingly suggests Microsoft deliberately removed this functionality.
It is pretty bad. It’s specifically Enterprise that is effected, and if they’re pushing these kinds of bugs on Enterprise customers then they really don’t have the QA they need. Think about how much they care about what they push on standard customers.
The article title is clickbaity. It doesn’t ‘get rid of’ the start menu and explorer. It just makes the processes completely hang so you can’t open any applications, can’t open the menu and can’t open task manager to see wtf is going on. You also can’t access the shutdown function so you have to manually power off.
This happened to me as I was setting up a Windows 11 / Linux dual boot system yesterday, and the Windows side was behaving as described in the article.
I gave up and just installed Linux alone in the end.
This is the way.
Task Manager is launched by the listener in winlogon if you use the Ctrl + Shift + Esc method though, right? I’m pretty sure you can still launch Task Manager, and from there attempt to relauch Explorer, even if Explorer is borked or not running. You’d just have to know how to do that and that you can.
That’s what I always do when Explorer’s ears inexplicably catch fire and I’m either too lazy or too naively hopeful to reboot.
For anyone following along at home, Windows Explorer is also responsible for displaying the start menu/taskbar. In the example in the article there’s something else funky going on inside Explorer, though, because the taskbar and even the desktop icons are all there, it’s just not rendering correctly. (Explorer is also responsible for showing all of your desktop icons.)
I’m honestly starting to not believe these articles. On an up to date version of w11 I never see any of the changes these articles claim are happening. I’m a linux user so I like laughing at windows as much as the next guy but i dont want to be an idiot falling for misinfo.
If you want comedy, look at the apple help fourms. You think linux users reimage alot the only troubleshooting step apple has is to reimage.
the only troubleshooting step apple has is to reimage.
That’s not entirely true. More often than not, the only troubleshooting step the “Apple Certified Professionals” there offer is to buy a new Mac.
And you can trade in your existing one for a couple hundred bucks off a new purchase
Isn’t that a good deal?
Lol, no. A good majority of the time the issue is something simple like a loose or broken ribbon cable that would cost $3 in parts and $50 in labour (if you’re being generous with the time).
This practice of the “Genus” bar people telling a customer that they need a whole board replacement that would cost $2000 and saying it’s cheaper to get a whole new computer is well documented.
I was joking of course. I know about all of Apple’s exploits all too well
Ah, ok. Well, Poe’s law
*relaxes in Linux*
So it’s a botched update not a designed feature.
I can feel the UI lag in the picture
It could get rid of whole system and world would be a nicer place 😎
It’s a ploy from Microsoft to push Copilot: you have to ask it to open the programs or folders you want. /s
Technicians are baffled how, even with an astounding 90% hallucination rate, this still was more reliable than windows search.
Perfect, you’ve got it, freeze the code base.
*checks that it’s not an onion article* Oh…
I think it is time to revive: “It’s not a bug, it’s a feature!”
Glad I decided to never touch 11. Seems almost customary to skip every second Windows version by now. I’m curious to see if it will be just a skip and they get their shit back together by 12. For now, surprisingly, I do not miss Windows one bit.
I still keep 10 around as dual boot for PCVR. Sure, I got it working (mostly) on Bazzite but its by no means trivial and hassle free. Everything else was smooth sailing most of the time. Just the few times I crashed head first into the immutable nature, caused me a bit of a headache.Reads like a onion article
Ah. Welcome back Windows 8.
We have hundreds of devices running this exact described situation, and we’ve not run into a single instance of this. Is this just one guy on Reddit complaining and the media ran with it?
It’s blogspam. You can click through to the original article. It only happens in certain environments.
Per the Microsoft KB for it, this only happens if Windows updates are installed before a user logs in for the first time. So basically re-images and especially VDI environments are at risk of this happening.
Yeah, lol the article and the way OP posted it insiniuate that Microsoft somehow decided to get rid of it while that’s not the issue, I did hear there’s some bugs but yeah, wouldn’t be Windows if it weren’t.
Sounds like this affected a very small number of users. Anyone see this themselves?
