It’s wild just how much they’re trying to shove AI down our throats.
Who’s going to step up and start creating a “dumb” version of absolutely everything? One brand dedicated to just making the thing do the thing it absolutely must do and nothing else.
Alternatively… just get a CRT. Or hell, even an old plasma screen lol
I will if you start a go fund me to raise enough money to.
If you root your lg oled you can truly block automatic updates. You can also install ad free youtube with sponsorblock integrated plus a bunch of other stuff that is of varying utility depending on your use case.
In general though just don’t connect it to the internet and get a $100 box for jellyfin from china (ugoos am6b+ works great and can playback basically anything but av1 natively if you flash Coreelec, the android side can still run streaming apps if you insist or iptv apps like tv mate since iptv support in kodi/jellyfin suuuucks).
Lg has proven they don’t respect consent by silently opting you in to data collection with updates. The updates never add features or bug fixes, just ugly UI changes and shit like this. It’s almost never worth updating unless someone is specifically saying “you should update, it fixes/adds ____
In the future don’t support them but at the same time it’s the “who the fuck can you support/oh you use an iphone under capitalism” problem. Yeah you don’t need a big tv, you don’t need an oled, you can buy a far more expensive commercial display, etc. I dunno
If you root your tv…
My brother in christ.
Exactly. This is already so many levels 9f wrong up to this point.
You buy a $400-$3000 tv and eliminate big parts of the feature set (dlna, phone/laptop as remote, airplay/casting, etc) because you let their nonsense prevent you from connecting something you purchased to the internet so the vendor won’t ruin it.
Or you buy any other brand where rooting isn’t even an option and the ad penetration is often worse because they’re almost all based around amazon, androidtv, or Roku, all of which are much more developed and mature. With tricks like not allowing you to set a custom dns for Adblocking (Roku does this) or hard defining a cloudflare DNS to circumvent ad blocking dns if you set it at the router level (android does this).
If all the options are shit, make one that works
Needs to be illegal.
This shit is why more people now have dabbled in DNS blocking and vlans. Its “your” equipment but you need to literally treat it as hostile.
So glad I blocked my LG C1 from the internet ages ago. Haven’t received updates in forever, don’t care. It’s a TV, it shows pictures. I even still have it LAN enabled so it can be controlled via Home Assistant automations, it just can never leave the home network, and that’s how I like it.
I can’t even remember how long ago I set it up to do this, I think it was when I heard rumor they’d be including ads in the UI, maybe 2023 or so.
That’s interesting - I have a C1 (2021). Where or how do you block these updates and have it connected to your local network?
It’s blocked at my router. I’ve had two routers the past few years, an ASUS AX5700 (RT-AX86u) and a NETGEAR AXE7800 (RAXE300). Both allow for blocking a device from internet without blocking LAN access. So you give it an IP on your network, and then just block it from internet. I use the Netgear currently and have the ASUS as a backup device.
I don’t know if it’s true, but I’ve read that some TVs will scan and seek to connect to open networks if it’s not connected at all, so I figure that way it’s totally blocked, and I still have access to its APIs for Home Assistant and Homekit use.
You’d need to set up a firewall rule on your router to block that device from accessing the internet. If you’ve got a fancy enough router you could set up a VLAN and second SSID for all your IoT things and only whitelist connections and devices you want to allow. That can get a little tricky to set up though
I need someone to explain to me, what situation could possibly arise that would require me to use Copilot on my fucking TV?
The same reason why windows has that stupid desktop search - so that some twat with an MBA can brag about user engagement and justify his existence. Also, to hoover up user data for slop machine training.
It seems TV aren’t even owner by the owners anymore. I don’t watch TV nor game anymore but seeing the amount of ads when just turning on tvs at friends houses is wild and now with this it’s doing way too much to just be a display. Whoever decides to start making dumb tvs again at mass with all the newer tech like hdr and dolby atmos in it will have a booming business but I guess no residuals after the sale no unlimited growth for investors.
For now, at least in Europe, I have removed every single ad on TV just buy going to the terms and conditions and not giving them consent. But I am using Samsung smart TV and I’m in Europe.
My next tv (don’t have one) is just gonna be attached to a laptop by hdmi. That’s it.
Get a monitor, you don’t need a wall sized tv. I got a pair of Displayport monitors for free, and they perform admirably.
I think the one I have is 50 inch and I think it could be a bit smaller, yeah. A monitor might work better . I just use it for my switch and some tv shows/ambiance.
Since it can’t be LG anymore - what’s a good TV screen for gaming?
The panels all come from two producers (really just one for the very good ones). So, pick whoever you can get the best deal on for your needed featureset and never connect it to the internet.
Also enable Game Mode which typically turns off some of the smart TV functions.
I disagree that it can’t be LG anymore since it’s still a basic TV so long as you don’t connect it to the internet. Use the TV as a TV and use an Nvidia Shield, Chromecast, etc to do your internet stuff.
I called a terrible IT person for suggesting not connecting smart TVs to the network as a simple means of by passing the issue with their updates and invasion of privacy. I think it’d be easier to do that and hook up an old computer for streaming from.
LG, Samsung are still fine, you just don’t connect them to the internet and use an android tv instead
Don’t buy LG, noted. Also, maybe buying a dumb TV with great panel and then adding android fire stick that you can manage the way you want is the way all along?
Or just buy whatever smart panel and do the same. Might as well take the subsidy from the smart panel and just leave it off your network
Mine periodically displays a wi-fi not connected overlay if it’s not connected.
That’s diabolical
No, don’t even buy LG.
I bought a dumb LG panel for my bedroom and I had to buy black enamel paint to go over the status LED. When the panel it’s off, the indicator LED it’s BRIGHT. BLUE. BLINKING. And it’s so powerful that I still see it because the light leaks from the small plastic vents. I also had to additionally insert a Shelly 1pm smart relay in the socket and program it with the logic “from 8pm to 8am if power usage is under 5 watts, cut the power; repeat the check every minute”
When the panel is on, instead, the status LED it’s off 🤷🏻♂️
Well LG did me a favor. Don’t buy LG tvs, Samsung appliances or HP printers.
Well, at least LG has a range of TVs turned monitors, i.e. without all that “smart” shit. So they have a usable alternative, something other vendors don’t.
I got my mom an iPad, apparently AI is unavoidable in setup. To finish setup, you must agree to Apple AI.
They are all doing it together. I can’t keep track of who owns what, perhaps “they” are all actually owned by the same megacorp.
I think everyone should return things when there is weird tos to use something. It costs the company as they’ll have to sell the product as ‘used’, and it informs them that people don’t actually agree, we are just coerced into it.
A coordinated effort to do that on a specific day could be interesting.
Oh really? I have never had Apple Intelligence enabled on mine, it was always opt in I thought
It is. Original commenter is either dishonest or inept.
Please don’t lie, this is exactly what happened using the automatic setup (repeatedly). Let’s make a deal, if I bother to film it and post the video, you agree to immediately delete your account; if I am wrong, I agree to immediately delete my account. We will need mod enforcement, as I don’t trust you for obvious reasons.
Ironically, your statement is itself dishonest or inept, so thanks for the snort.
You want me to buy and set up a new iPad to show you how to navigate instructions on a screen?
Thanks for the laugh.
Whatever would give you that idea? I don’t want you to buy and set up a new iPad to show me how to navigate instructions on a screen, that was never said or even vaguely implied. It’s not even a viable conversational option, well done.
Thanks for the hearty laughs at you laughing inappropriately due to your own lack of comprehension and nonsensical response. Seriously, how could you possibly think that I want you to do setup or buy an ipad in any way? The bet was… oh why bother, fine, you don’t want a video that proves you are wrong.
Your claim is still dishonest and/or inept, recall that your setup experience is irrelevant and not universal, per Apple’s very own admission. Plain to discover for anyone who investigates with even a cursory search, oh well, haha hahaha thank yoooooooooouuuu
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Thank you for your time
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Whoa, they are racing for pink slips. That’s how you know it’s GTA real.
You can definitely turn Apple Intelligence off
Well Vanguard and Blackrock have a significant stake in all major companies even in Apple, together they own something like 17% of Apple and almost the same in Microsoft. Since they buy shares for their ETFs or mutual fund products. While they technically don’t own the shares but only manage the investments they do vote on behalf of their clients.
It is not unavoidable. You can say no and move on with your setup. There are reasons to hate corporations but this is not one.
It is 100% unavoidable with the options provided using setup as stated. You can either click “activate AI” or “continue”, clicking the latter brings you to the “activate AI” prompt. There are no other options using the setup.
Please don’t make false claims to defend Apple, it’s silly.
Easy way to never get this. Don’t connect the tv to internet. Literally get an Apple TV or fire stick or something else as a media player.
What does LG even get out of this?
M$ is probably paying them handsomely for it.
It’s always one thing: Money.
clankers should be segregated from society. oh and to the hexbear people: “clanker” is technically NOT a slur. seriously!
what?
You said something about clankers in your post. It reminded me of something they’d refer to battle droids as in star wars the clone wars. That is Captain Rex, one of the main characters
“clankers” is a term that’s being used for ai bots in a pseudo-negative way, i think
Must be an extension from the Star Wars root. The “clankers” in the show were stupid too.
