YouTube is increasing Premium prices in multiple countries, right after an ad-blocker crackdown | You either pay rightfully for the video content you consume, or you live with the ads.::Google is increasing the prices of YouTube Premium and YouTube Music Premium subscriptions in some regions, right after blocking ad-blockers.

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    11 months ago

    So you're openly hating on people for being normal, without offering a single alternative of a video platform that's not all of those things that you labeled as evil.

    There are alternatives, they've been posted many times over in this thread and similar ones.

    The alternative to shopping isn't shoplifting. The usual things that people list are client side apps that circumvent intended operation of the platform, reaping as many benefits without paying the cost. But hosting isn't free. Running a business isn't free. And hating the people who literally subsidize your unauthorized use of the platform is hypocrisy.

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      11 months ago

      The alternative to shopping isn’t shoplifting. The usual things that people list are client side apps that circumvent intended operation of the platform, reaping as many benefits without paying the cost. But hosting isn’t free. Running a business isn’t free. And hating the people who literally subsidize your unauthorized use of the platform is hypocrisy.

      We all know that Youtube need to get rid off of AdBlockers because they want to make more money than what they are making now. If they just need to cover business costs they could just make the service subscription only, make the fee high enough to keep the site running and earn something and allow to see only the first 10-15% of each video to not subscribed users and forget all this charade about AdBlockers.

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        11 months ago

        We all know that Youtube need to get rid off of AdBlockers because they want to make more money than what they are making now.

        Making money by charging for completely optional services is not only not wrong, but the very reason why we have most of the good stuff that we have.

        If they just need to cover business costs they could just make the service subscription only, make the fee high enough to keep the site running and earn something and allow to see only the first 10-15% of each video to not subscribed users and forget all this charade about AdBlockers.

        Awesome! Submit your resume or send it as a proposal. If they didn't think of this first and discarded it because of reasons that you haven't considered, this might be an opportunity to benefit everyone.

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          We all know that Youtube need to get rid off of AdBlockers because they want to make more money than what they are making now.

          Making money by charging for completely optional services is not only not wrong, but the very reason why we have most of the good stuff that we have.

          And who said it is wrong ? I only said that they want to make more money, not that they cannot make money.

          If they just need to cover business costs they could just make the service subscription only, make the fee high enough to keep the site running and earn something and allow to see only the first 10-15% of each video to not subscribed users and forget all this charade about AdBlockers.

          Awesome! Submit your resume or send it as a proposal.

          Not interested, I leave it to you ;-)

          If they didn’t think of this first and discarded it because of reasons that you haven’t considered, this might be an opportunity to benefit everyone.

          The reason is that this way they would make less money while keeping the service in the black, people would realize that, after all, Youtube is not that important part of their routine, and the total number of users would be lower (by a long shot probably) so even less data to harvest and sell and less return in Ads. After all who would watch 2 minutes of ads in a 2.30 minutes long video ?

          Imagine Google doing it and then saying "we restructured out offer and this yeas we are 30% below the last year analysts' forecasts and we think that we will cut the earning by half while keeping the operational costs below the X % of the total profit". The next day the shares would be trash and all the management would be fired.
          The reality is that once you are quoted in Wall Street (but it is true in every other place) you always need to grow. The problem is that you need to grow faster than your userbase could grow so no way to add X million new users (eyeball to watch your ads) every year: at some point you would run out of people (or of people who would accept, which is the same)

          So the only thing you can do is monetize some more of what you already have. The only reason Youtube want to get rid of the Adblockers is that this way they can say to the advertisers "we increased the number of viewers of X % so you should pay us Y % more" so they can reach what the Wall Street analysts's forecasts were and the stock price increase. Nothing else, no server or bandwidth problems. Only stock prices.