I don’t trust discord with what little I formation I’ve gave them so far. Definitely not giving them my ID or a scan of my face.
But they pinky promise the face scan is not facial recognition and that it’s immediately deleted and never leaves your device.
Considering the recent “third-party” data breach cases…
More info for those unfamiliar:
Of the accounts impacted globally, we have identified approximately 70,000 users that may have had government-ID photos exposed, which our vendor used to review age-related appeals.
Goodbye Discord.
Hello Matrix!
Matrix isn’t that good from an usability standpoint as it looks a lot like IRC
Usability is good in my opinion. They’ve spent a lot of time on the UI over the past couple years. The mobile Element X apps are excellent now IMO. But the two things that prevent matrix/Element from being a good discord replacement are:
- No Mumble-like voice chat. They have Zoom-like conference calling now, but no voice channels.
- Search is either non-existent (mobile clients) or is awful. It’s somehow worse than Discord’s search! I know it’s because the search needs to work on-device because of E2EE, but unfortunately it’s still a minus point vs Discord.
Honestly, the best solution to 1 may be to simply deploy mumble in addition to matrix (or other chat apps).
Seconding this, just use mumble. It’s self-hosted free and open source software, easy on resources, provides very low latency, and it’s very stable and reliable.
The client might look a little dated but I still love it. I don’t care for stupid electron apps, which every modern application seems to be.
LOL! That’s so true! Even I have trouble navigating.
Of the accounts impacted globally, we have identified approximately 70,000 users that may have had government-ID photos exposed
Lol, no thanks. I deleted this trash years ago and wish companies would stop using it for tech and customer support. “Join our discord channel!” - no.
Same here.
Finally my chance to quit?
IdkYeah, you go ahead & do that, & watch how many people will jump ship to other alternatives while you lose a lot of money & subscriptions, especially when you’ve been hacked before.
People have found other alternatives to TikTok, & they’ll do the same with Discord.
i wouldn’t be so optimistic. normies have a tendency to accept quite a lot.
I mean, you’re not wrong, but have you seen what those alternatives were?
Users who aren’t verified as adults will not be able to access age-restricted servers and channels, won’t be able to speak in Discord’s livestream-like “stage” channels, and will see content filters for any content Discord detects as graphic or sensitive.
Shrug
I’m not using discord for porn, so I’m not going to lose sleep. Will simply live with a “teen” account until my groups migrate to a better service.
But you’ll get my biometrics from my cold dead hands.
They will also get warning prompts for friend requests from potentially unfamiliar users, and DMs from unfamiliar users will be automatically filtered into a separate inbox.
GOOD
Crazy they didn’t implement this years ago. Discord is bloated with fake user spam.
That last part should just be a feature of any account.
The last point is already implemented, and as someone who regularly has to get DMs from strangers, I have those options off. I guess now I can’t do that.
However, some users may not have to go through either form of age verification. Discord is also rolling out an age inference model that analyzes metadata like the types of games a user plays, their activity on Discord, and behavioral signals like signs of working hours or the amount of time they spend on Discord.>
that’s probably not much better though. nothing good will come from discord scanning and judging everything we say on it.
in other news: next month i will be attempting to bypass discord’s “AI” powered security features. I expect to overcome them in 4 minutes with a pic of an ID i found on the internet
im hoping i can use an ai altered image of stalin or some other communist leader like that lmao
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Damn guess I’m not using Discord anymore
I’m not against age restrictions, but letting every site brew their own method is a really bad idea. I’m not going to upload my legal ID to every random site; that’s a recipe for identity theft, and it’s a really bad idea to teach people that that’s normal or acceptable.
And age guessing through facial recognition is incredibly unreliable. My 16 year old son has already been accepted as 18+ somewhere. I had a full moustache at 14. Others are blessed with a babyface well into their 30s.
The only right way to do this, is if governments provide their citizens with an eID that any site can ask “is this person 18+?” and get an accurate answer without any other identifiable info. And if you don’t want the government to know what sites you visit, have sites route the request through a proxy.
But instead everybody’s got to cobble together their own improvised system that we just have to trust blindly is not going to sell our data.
And if you don’t want the government to know what sites you visit, have sites route the request through a proxy.
Actually, no on the fly communication with the issuer is required for selective disclose. You just need a signed document with individually salted hashes of different properties and you can create a zero knowledge proof non-interactively. Zero knowledge meaning that truely nothing but the disclosed property (age > 18, County == DE, or whatever) is communicated to anyone.
Theres a lot of other cool stuff that can be done with zero knowledge digital identity wallets. You could for example hash your pubkey together with the service providers pk and disclose that as a per service ID, but not reveal your pk. This allows linkability within one service (as a login method for example) while preventing cross service linkability.
is there a practical way to delete all your messages at once?
undiscord is good.
personally i’d also backup the messages before deleting, this works well https://github.com/Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter
Dude my dnd campaign is run on Discord what the fuck. Do I need to start hosting open source voice and video chat?
it’s fine as long as you dont have the server marked as 18+
also, supposedly they will be having an ai determine people who are 18+ so you might not even need to upload anything
still, if this leaves too sour of a taste in your mouth the alternatives i can think of off the top of my head are: teamspeak (although i dont think they have teamspeak 6 server files available yet?), riot! (now called stoat apparently?), mumble, matrix, and jitsi meet
oh yeah if you’re ok seperating the chat and voice app i really like deltachat for chatting in the group
Riot renamed to Element.io, Revolt renamed to Stoat.chat















