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Just a decade after a global backlash was triggered by Snowden reporting on mass domestic surveillance, the state-corporate dragnet is stronger and more invasive than ever.

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    1 month ago

    I don’t use anything cloud based and much of my shit isn’t even allowed out to the internet.

    It’s a drop in the ocean, for too many say “But it’s sooooo convenient and I’ve got nothing to hide” and open up all they got. Share camera’s with amazon, email address book with facebook etc. not realizing nor caring I make an appearance in their instances too and I DO mind.

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      1 month ago

      “I don’t have anything to hide” is such an insidious little lie. A colloquial fib we feel compelled to utter as a mock defense, like asserting innocence will assuage suspicion.

      We all have something to hide. Probably many, many things to hide. Even just in the narrow context of the law, there are hundreds of thousands of laws that apply to any one of us at any given time, and you are almost certainly breaking some of them without even knowing it.

      Personal security through privacy is so very, very important. I wish more people could see that.

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        1 month ago

        “I don’t have anything to hide” is such an insidious little lie

        And easy to debunk. Take their phone, ask the pin. 9 out of 10 won’t. Open bank app ask pin again. You won’t get that far.

      • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 month ago

        Let me put things this way:

        • Hands up anybody who doesn’t believe that, if they can, Health Insurance companies won’t mine the shit out of your purchase data and Car Insurance mine the shit out of your driving data to try and fine tune your risk group in their models and find out any change if your conditions that impact their bottom line (and dump you if they can if you switch to a high risk group)

        Even if one’s relaxed about data mining of private data for the purpose of serving you custom adverts, there are plenty of other use cases which can actually cost you money, not to mention the risk when the Authorities start running crime-predictive models sold to them by slimy Tech Investors with high enough rates of false positive that you run the risk of being tagged a “Terrorism” for some stupid shit like buying more bleech than the average person.

        Even you think you’re above board on everything and about as boring and uninteresting a person as possible, there are plenty of ways in which others known everything about you might come around and bit you in the ass in very concrete ways.

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      1 month ago

      people that tell me “they have nothing to hide” understand where I am coming from in terms of privacy when I ask them to write down their social security number on a piece of paper with their debit/credit card information

      • MrKoyun@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        If you have nothing to hide, would you please consider installing 4K cameras in every corner of your house that publicly livestream your every action and also remove your front door?

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      1 month ago

      Recent tv’s became thin client’s. Turn it on and it first need to download the app('s)

    • Lukas Murch@thelemmy.club
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      It may seem like a drop in the ocean now, but if things ever got to the point where we’re being divided up into groups, you might be oddly left out of every group. It’s not hard to de-Google, de-Meta, inconvenient at times, but maybe it pays dividends down the road.

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        1 month ago

        The trouble with living in a panopticon is that becomes suspicious to not be on a list.

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          1 month ago

          We’re already seeing that where people are suspicious when you don’t have Facebook or whatever.