I hear it’s the first browser in a long while to come with a new engine. Completely independent and no revenue model. To me that would work well for privacy but I see no mention of privacy as any benefit. In fact I don’t see a privacy policy anywhere !
Is a goal of the browser to be telemetry free ? Should I as a person who cares about privacy be showing any interest?
tbh I’m more excited about Servo.org. They’re also developing a fully independent browser and are funded by the Linux Foundation. Ladybird has corporate sponsors, so I’m a bit hesitant. But the more the merrier I guess.
Has something changed recently? Last time I looked at Servo it was just an engine, not a full browser. The servo project wants others to use their rendering engine to create browsers and use it as an alternative to Electron.
It’s just the engine, but it’s supposed to be a much more modern and smaller engine, so writing a new browser on top of it would be much easier than using gecko is. But you’re right, it’s not a browser. There is Verso as a prototype browser, but it’s far from functional.
and use it as an alternative to Electron
Servo is a bloated GUI framework?
It’s an HTML, CSS, JS renderer. The fact so many use Electron for bloated app GUIs doesn’t mean that’s what it is. Every browser is functionally the same thing as Electron (with even more stuff), but the use case requires it.
This surely will be used to make bloated GUIs, but that’s good if it replaces Electron and is faster. There is a use for Electron. It’s just over-used.
There is a use for Electron.
Not sure i agree. They take a engine made to render a Document Object Model and shoehorn GUI widgets on it, no? At least, every Electron tool i’ve used was laggy, heavy and reserved GBs of RAM.
And what, you count the major webbrowsers not as heavy and bloated?
Well, one example would be a web browser. I’m sure you can at least agree with the utility there. I would say it could also be a useful tool for a prototype, but the problem is, once you have a working prototype, that tends to become the final product.
That’s true, but they have a prototype “browser” you can download from their website. And I’m hoping for a fleshed out version in the end, either from them or someone else.
Considering who is behind it, I have no interest in it.
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In terms of privacy, not really more than any other FOSS browser.
What’s more interesting about it is that they’re developing their own browser engine (meaning there will be another independent implementation of web standards) and licensing it (IIRC) more permissively than the existing ones. But that is of course not what this community is about.
- the privacy/security problem is inherent in websites requiring JS
- web standards organizations are infiltrated by Google for a decade now. And it’s likely, that they pushed for more complexity and more JS, to secure their businesses, because
- Google has a major webbrowser (complexer engine = less competition)
- Google has the major search engine, power over rankings (ensuring webpages implement complexity)
- Google has 90% internet advertising market share (it’s their turf)
To fix the web, we need something new, that is simple to implement but still flexible.
I’d be happier if Firefox received more support. A relatively equal duopoly of browsers is preferable IMO to 80% market share for one, and the remaining 20% broken up amongst half a dozen competing alternatives.
Lot of developer power out there that would be better spent improving what’s mostly already there (Firefox) rather than starting multiple different projects from scratch again. People will burn up any energy and spare time they had to help without even seeing a new browser render it’s first HELL WORLD
I am, sevro could be cool be they aren’t actually making a “web browser”
I won’t touch the transphobic browser for the same reasons I don’t use the homophobic browser
Eh everyone here acting all mighty because of whose behind it but they are still using gnu products. Stallman is not exactly a perfect model, why are people using gnu.
And what, dare I ask, is the problem with gnu?
