• mechoman444@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    You guys are asking the wrong questions.

    How is Linux going to do this? There’s no server for the os to send the information to report the age of its users, no way of forcing its user base to comply and no single person or entity to fine, arrest or otherwise force into compliance.

    They made a law they cannot enforce.

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      2 months ago

      How is Linux going to do this? There’s no server for the os to send the information to report the age of its users

      The law doesn’t require sending the data anywhere, so that’s not a problem.

      no way of forcing its user base to comply and no single person or entity to fine, arrest or otherwise force into compliance.

      The law doesn’t require anything of users, it requires something of OS providers. OS providers have addresses and entities to fine.

      • BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org
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        2 months ago

        Yes it fucking does. Go read the bill, particularly section 1798.501.b, 1798.502.a and b. Every developer of every application that can be downloaded from every package system MUST request your age bracket every time it is downloaded. And possibly every time it is launched. Basic utilities like ‘ls’ and ‘cat’, that pong example I pushed as a test, everything.

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          2 months ago

          Me: It doesn’t require anything of users

          You: Yes it does require something of developers

          ??

          You are correct, but how does that disagree with my comment?

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            2 months ago

            Sorry, I see that I was unclear.

            Yes it fucking does require sending the data somewhere, specifically to every “application store”, which by their definition includes such things as Github, PyPI, Crates.io, Debian mirrors, apt/rpm repos, and personal websites that have hobby projects from more than one person.

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              2 months ago

              Can you quote the relevant part of the bill? I don’t see it. From what I’m reading:

              • The OS provider has to collect the age information from the user
              • The OS provider has to make the age information available to any app that asks for it
              • The developer of any app has to request the age information from either the OS or from an Application Store

              There is nothing about how the Application Store obtains the age information (presumably they mean something like Google Play or the App Store that already have the information about users and of course haven’t considered anything else), and there is nothing about the OS sending the age anywhere other than an app running on it that asks for it.

    • Spesknight@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      What if banning Linux is part of the Agenda? And what will they do for the servers? I am declaring my pc a server as of right now…

      • yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip
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        2 months ago

        How do you want to do this? Linux is a kernel the world relies on. It powers your car, your fridge, your satellite, your phone, the entire Internet, the army, etc. Nothing comes close to Linux in market share. The distros are built upon the kernel. System76 may have to comply, but the other maintainers don’t give a flying fuck. They could even write a small line somewhere on their repo that says “this distro is not allowed in California” and call it a day.

    • Liketearsinrain@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      From what I understood, it’s a requirement for a local API (for apps to use) and could be implemented during user creation.

      It will be a slippery slope and IANAL, just my interpretation.