The installation was very easy! It’s very greatful that my data doesn’t send to Google any more.
Welcome
im still waiting for the linux phone of my dreams tbh
Graphene really is the next best thing. If you can get your hands on a used Pixel or splurge for a new one, you won’t regret converting. At least until there’s a production-ready gnuPhone
what about something like fairphone? why is pixel better?
Graphene only supports pixels currently.
They have hardware encryption tech other phones don’t have that graphene uses
Fairphone can’t run Graphene and the other de-Googled Android ROMs that it can run aren’t nearly as secure
Graphene really is the next best thing. If you can get your hands on a used Pixel or splurge for a new one, you won’t regret converting. At least until there’s a production-ready gnuPhone
I’d argue that Graphene is a better thing since it’s based on an OS that’s been designed for mobile from the ground up. I expect it’s going to be a while before Linux UX on mobile catches up to desktop, but Graphene works great already.
By those standards, Halium + ubports might be worth while, it’s using enough of the android binaries to get the job done but is still real linux.
For most use cases though, you don’t really have much of a benefit of running Linux over Android on a phone though. There’s enough Linux compatibility on Android already to make it work seamlessly with your Linux devices. In my opinion, as long as the stack is open source and well supported, it doesn’t really matter whether it’s Android or Linux based.
The binary blobs handling drivers are both the rub AND the part we can’t seem to work without.
reverse engineering this stuff is pretty challenging unfortunately
Is it actually usable for everyday stuff though? I heard that bank apps are pain in the ass among other things. Maybe this new deal with Motorola changes things.
You can install Google app store in a container, and all the apps I’ve used work fine on it out of the box. It absolutely works fine as a daily driver.
That’s great! Well, I think I’ll give a shot when my iPhone dies.
(Edit: Maybe) You can’t do mobile deposit, but surely you can still just use the bank’s website.
I can do mobile deposit with both my credit union and Discover.
Well, I stand corrected. Even less reason to not switch to Graphene.
I can do mobile deposit with both my credit union and Discover.
I have been using it for 2+ years exclusively. I had a few issues with mobile deposit with my old credit union, but I moved to a new one and it works. So does the Discover app. Pretty much everything else is great, and I worry much less about my phone spying on me.
I have been using it for 2+ years exclusively. I had a few issues with mobile deposit with my old credit union, but I moved to a new one and it works. So does the Discover app. Pretty much everything else is great, and I worry much less about my phone spying on me.
I’m pre invested in the launch of the next Jolla phone, which runs sailfish
I feel my old n900 will remain the only one I ever had…
Still have it?You can try maemo Leste on it. https://maemo-leste.github.io/
Far from usable as daily phone, but they are making good progress despite their small team. Dillo works as Browser for sites without js, SMS works well, calls are possible, Bluetooth is missing but everything else pretty much works.
Of course the 256MB RAM pose a heavy limit for todays apps. You have to choose ones which use it sparingly. E.g. mupdf, gnumeric instead of libreoffice and so on.
But its awesome for mobile ssh and, little games like SNES ones. I am starting to use it as second phone.
It still works but sadly it got the “no sim card” syndrome, so no longer a daily phone option…
Had that on one of mine too (my main one I used for many years). Yes thats very bad, nearly unfixable and you can only use it with a second phone which provides a hotspot.
But in case you want to get rid of it it would be great if you sent it to the team for development purposes (You can reach them on their mailing list https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/maemo-leste) or even I would be happy if you send it to me, so that I have spare parts and maybe I will dare to try to fix the modem.
(Some people had success with stripping all temperature sensitive parts and plastics from the mainboard and baking the mainboard in the oven)
In case you want to to keep it, believe me, I fully understand :) Maybe one day you will get the urge to fiddle with it again.
The Pinephone was a fun expiriment. I want that pinboard switch on other devices, but the linux dev/update cycle is very unconducive to the needs of most daily drivers.
what kinds update cycle do you mean? cuz with a bigger userbase that will be greatly improved im sure, i use arch (btw) and i would love a similar experience on a phone. Maybe librephone will get the stone rolling. One can dream.
Welcome to the fold!
Just a heads up, GOS doesn’t recommend the F-droid app as apparently there’s some security concerns. SideOfBurritos on YouTube talks more about it. An app like Droidify or Neo Store would be better and still uses the same F-Droid repositories. I use and really like Obtanium which allows you to download and manage apps directly from their websites, GitHub, F-Droid, & more.
Seconded on Obtainium. Basically any FOSS app is gonna have a repo there with releases regardless, and you can always just use an f-droid repository if they only publish releases there.
Plus, way easier to export a list of installed apps to restore them at a later date!
Good to know. Any informative reads on this? I like burritos but prefer them as the main dish.
Here’s the Side of Burritos video with two followup videos in the description (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzpVI4zaso0)
I don’t really know much about it to be honest, and the video is pretty old, and someone in the comments says the issue is fixed but I haven’t seen that anywhere else. I just use Obtanium anyway since you can get most FOSS apps from GitHub, a for ones that don’t, you can still find F-Droid apps. SideOfBurritos also has a more recent video about how to set up and use Obtanium if you’re interested.
I’ve been meaning to try out Obtanium anyway since the Linux Unplugged podcast talked about it.
Is there a way to install Obtainium other than downloading it from a seemingly random website?
You can download the APK right from their website as well as I believe their GitHub.
Their website also has the certificate hash to verify with AppVerifier
Thank you for the information!
Good to know. Any informative reads on this? I like burritos but prefer them as the main dish.
How do you take a picture of your phone?
here we go again
Wait, how did you take a picture of you taking a picture of your phone?
You can always add widgets if you want something to break up the gridded icons. 🫡 Welcome to the fam.
Which ones do ypu recommend?
- Breezy Weather
- ProgressBars (for displaying days until payday as a desktop icon)
- AnotherMonitor (to display remaining SSD space on an icon)
Breezy Weather is abs excellent. Perfectly functional but also looks beaut! Not something you often see in open source. Highly recommended!
Try Klara
Welcome to serenity in the middle of the storm. Isn’t it great at first boot after install where you only have a clean canvas with a couple of apps and absolutely no bloat?
i want it too. motorola, pls.
Are you saying, “Hello Moto?”
Welcome ! Quick tip: Google has a database of cell towers that helps getting a location quickly and helps starting the GPS connection even indoors.
You don’t have that on GOS. So when you use localization with organic maps, you’ll notice it struggle to find you. You have to have a clear view to the sky to get a ping and then you can use it inside your car for example.
I also use https://github.com/barbeau/gpstest to get the ping more quickly.
You can improve a coverage alternative with one of the many apps which discover and upload cell towers to Beacon DB.
Thank you, I did not know about that. I’ll look into it. I see it’s on Accrescent
What phone? I might try it out since I feel like tinkering.
Pixel 9a
Does anyone know if Google pay and banking apps from India (UPI) work on GOS? Pretty much impossible to live in an Indian city without these apps now
Unless something has changed in the past couple years, google pay doesn’t work.
Here’s a compatibility list for banking apps: link
Google pay will not work. As for the banking apps, it’ll depend on how the app is implemented. I can pay with my Chase app, but no Google pay (yes, I tried, Sue me 🤣)
Most apps will work with just sandboxed play services installed. But, If your app has implemented play integrity checks then you need play store installed, and you need to be logged in too. Only then you’ll be able to use banking apps.
It really depends on the banking app, for example mine used google play store to download but doesnt need it to run at all (updates happen from it though). So i can run it on my main profile with GPS (google play store) disabled.
Protip - Download something like the Shelter app so you can set up a Work profile space and install the apps that need GPS to run n then this can be the space where you have these apps. Shelter has a really handy feature that lets you get notifications from these apps when on another profile n can send files between. Best of all you can pause the work space, basically stops all apps.
At the start i had quite a few GPS apps here but I’ve slowly using less n less. At the moment there are three apps there that I need for work but only rarely so really need to unpause that space like 2% of the time.
P.S - try and ensure the apps on your main profile are not downloaded from GPS/Aurora Store. You can check the app info to see which store you downloaded them from. If you can, get them from other stores (others have given good tips on those already) or their own websites/githubs. Basically want to have zero connected apps n can disable google play store n services on your main profile.
Cheers mate. I’m running GrapheneOS on my Pixel 9a.
nice background anime maids are based
Got a guide? I have pixel 8a.
Edit: Nvm I Ecosia’d it. Found lots of stuff.
Welcome!
I just got a Pixel 9 last week and put GrapheneOS on it. Couldn’t be happier with it so far. The install was completely painless using web installer. All my apps worked out of the box. Google Store works fine in the sandbox. UX is good, and you don’t have any of the crap Google normally loads like all the adaptive services, and all the other junk that runs in the background.
Next step, compile lineage for your Galaxy S3 from 2012 and use it to watch movies
i am very stupid when it comes to phones… how can I wipe android and install graphenous. I will buy a new chip/SIM for my last phone to test/see how it works. Reveal your magic please. I just want a basic phone (text, call, maybe even a map/weather app and like a note app). I can use cash money or bank cards for paying for stuff- don’t need an app/service for that, perfectly capable as an adult to manage paying for shit without an electronic device.
Just go to the grapheneOS website and it will walk you through it.
I have a medium competency with this kind of thing and the actual install was shockingly easy. Took about 15 mins.
You just change a couple of settings on your phone (it walks you through everything), plug it in and then press some buttons in sequence on their site.
Just make sure you back up everything you need from the phone first.
