• A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Marxists would say that this is a symptom of alienation, that industrial society under capitalism has isolated individuals from their communities, broken up the extended family, and divorced the worker from the fruits of their labor.

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      11 months ago

      I think it has more to do with concrete changes to how people socialize over the past 15 years, namely smartphones and the internet. People seek community through the internet but are functionally isolating themselves, and as irl relationships fade or never happen, they stay online more, which becomes a positive feedback loop. They develop social anxieties only because they have no experience with or are not used to socializing irl

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        11 months ago

        But it doesn’t have to be that way. I was a shut in once and started going out. I’m still not good at it, but I’m getting better. I can’t go back to being a shut in. I need my in person socialization on a regular basis.

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        11 months ago

        The internet was able to trick people into thinking they were socializing when they were actually alone in their room all day.

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      10 months ago

      Yeah, I believe that capitalism, in fact, encourages the isolation of the individial. After all, isolated individuals don’t make solidarity (i.e. unions).

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      11 months ago

      And they’d be missing the mark.

      Community isolation came well after the dawn of capitalism via car-centric infrastructure, which isn’t necessarily a capitalism issue as much as a problem with invention exceeding what’s actually needed of it.

      The extended family was destroyed by the church long before there even was a capitalism, the European clan structure family was determined to be “ungodly” because it tended to lead to inbreeding and tyranny of cousins scenarios.

      • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        11 months ago

        I think you’re litigating something else entirely.

        Community isolation came well after the dawn of capitalism via car-centric infrastructure, which isn’t necessarily a capitalism issue as much as a problem with invention exceeding what’s actually needed of it.

        The extended family was destroyed by the church long before there even was a capitalism, the European clan structure family was determined to be “ungodly” because it tended to lead to inbreeding and tyranny of cousins scenarios.

        Which is it? Before or after Capitalism? Also, car-centric infrastructure is 1000% a byproduct of Capitalism. It certainly wasn’t the communities and the Marxists telling everyone to buy a car and drive an hour each way to work and back.