• ulterno@programming.devEnglish
    2·
    2 days ago

    Apart from the occasional 100% VOLUME Noise Bang that I get into my Headphones (disregarding the volume I have set), pipewire works pretty well, consistently.

  • yogurtwrong@lemmy.world
    831·
    3 days ago

    okay here me out:

    Pipewire is one of the best pieces of software I used. It has a cool ass patchbay and unlike PulseAudio I’ve never had it crash on me. It is the best thing that happened to Linux audio

    I was blown away when I connected my phone to my PC through Bluetooth and phone audio started playing through my PC. It just worked without me touching anything

    I also really like how “Linux Studio Plugins” are standalone apps that you can run. I don’t produce music or anything but I still use stuff like equalizers and spectrum analyzers. It is insane how flexible the “each app has inputs and outputs you can hook together” architecture is.

    PulseAudio probably also had some of these features but I never used those because pulse would fall apart every time I touched it. Pipewire doesn’t

    Broken Linux audio is about to become old news

    • [object Object]@lemmy.world
      5·
      3 days ago

      I also really like how “Linux Studio Plugins” are standalone apps that you can run. I don’t produce music or anything but I still use stuff like equalizers and spectrum analyzers. It is insane how flexible the “each app has inputs and outputs you can hook together” architecture is.

      It’s weird that parts of this approach have been around for a long time, but barely anyone can make them all work together out of the box.

      Mac has AU Lab that can host AU apps, i.e. Apple’s analog of VST, and feed system audio through them. Plugging any app into another is a bit more involved, though: there was the open-source Sunflower made like fifteen years ago, but bit rot gotten it, and another open-source clone doesn’t work for some reason either — so paid apps are the best recourse, just like on Windows iirc.

      Mac also has a feature where one can combine multiple audio inputs into one virtual input. A funny application of this is, if you put the mic into a virtual input and call it ‘Rocksmith Something Something Controller’, you can play guitar with Rocksmith without their special usb device.

      Next stop: iOS has an audio bus for connecting apps together just like VST/AU on the desktop (actually I think it’s very same Audio Unit stuff). Android has jackshit, and if you feel that audio latency could be lower, it’ll spit in your face.

    • marcos@lemmy.world
      2·
      3 days ago

      Yes. The only times I’ve had any problem with pipewire were when pulse decided to run for some reason and disrupted everything.

      Also, I can open a pipewire device, write data there, and not run into C assert faults. I can do this with oss and alsa too, of course, but AFAIK, it’s impossible with pulse and all the Linux DEs ran on pure magic for a decade.

  • Reygle@lemmy.world
    12·
    3 days ago

    I’m going to tempt fate here, you ready?

    This hasn’t happened to me since pulseaudio

      • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
        3·
        3 days ago

        I have a strange Dual Screen Asus on Intel with mobile arc. About 10% of the time, waking from sleep will crash the taskbar, something about the video driver not being ready yet.

        I just wrote a daemon to kick plasmashell in the ass if it notices the bar isn’t there.

      • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
        1·
        3 days ago

        I have a strange Dual Screen Asus on Intel with mobile arc. About 10% of the time, waking from sleep will crash the taskbar, something about the video driver not being ready yet.

        I just wrote a daemon to kick plasmashell in the ass if it notices the bar isn’t there.

  • ColdWater@lemmy.ca
    17·
    3 days ago

    Strange I never had any problems with PW, for me it’s probably the most reliable Linux software there is

    • tetris11@feddit.ukEnglish
      4·
      3 days ago

      the bluetooth pipewire pulseaudio mix could be a bit better.

      It’s gotten to the point that my bluetooth headphones will not connect to my laptop because I don’t currently have any media playing.

      Load up a youtube video, the audio device springs into life, offers it up as pulseaudio source, who signals to bluez that there is a valid audio profile and suddenly everything connects.

      From an efficiency standpoint, yes I get it. From a UX standpoint… please just let my earphones connect when I enable bluetooth from the get go

  • orenj@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    12·
    3 days ago

    I have a terrible confession: i have loads of audio issues im dealing with atm. My desktop setup basically gets confused and stops working whenever i try to switch fom headphones to speaker, and my two laptops just do not want to pair with my bluetooth headphones unless i futz with bluetoothctl every time

    Anyway, tangent aside. my terrible confession is that i go to linuxmemes for tech support, someone pls help

  • BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org
    6·
    3 days ago

    I definitely remember having to futz with audio a looooong time ago, but honestly getting xf86config to work with my video card and monitor was much more difficult.

      • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
        9·
        3 days ago

        I have linux issues every time I have a “new” machine, and it makes sense. Linux is a volunteer/ opensource project. It isn’t getting chipsets before, and building drivers in advance of hardware releases (at least it mostly isn’t; I understand that some times it does).

        Because of that, the newer your harder, the crappier it works. The longer your hardware has been around, in-general, my experience is that Linux becomes an “it just works experience”.

        Also, fuck you mediatek 7925e.

    • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
      2·
      3 days ago

      try disabling bluetooth power saving

      try libspa-bluetooth if pipewire

      force A2DB profile in pavucontrol or blueman

      make sure you have bluez and bluez-utils?

      • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
        1·
        3 days ago

        Nah. I’m just gonna hope distros once the paper I’m submitting is accepted and I don’t need this machine again. I think I’m going to go fedora so I can stay closer to bleeding edge on the kernel.

    • B-TR3E@feddit.org
      12·
      3 days ago

      That’s the best thing bluetooth audio can do for you. Much better than anything it does to music.

  • AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    5·
    3 days ago

    Ive not been using Linux for long, maybe only 5 years or so. But I’ve never had any audio issues.

    My audio needs are not as straightforward as the average user. I play drums over midi into reaper. I have used guitars and mics through my audio interface. My midi controllers work without any issues.

    Im using pipewire and running reaper with pipewire-jack. I’ve used mint for years with no issues, and now running debian Trixie with no issues.

    • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      4·
      3 days ago

      It’s mostly an old notion that just won’t die. Especially in the years after its initial release (2004) it was just a disastrous experience sometimes with cracking noises, misconfigured sinks (or outright missing), crashes and - if I still remember one of my first Linux experiences with Ubuntu 8.04 right - the sudden decision to repeat the current audio buffer at maximum volume.

      Ever since I came back to Linux on Desktop around 2017 I didn’t had any bigger issues with Pulse either. Ever since Pipewire became the default stuff just works, no issues whatsoever.

    • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br
      2·
      3 days ago

      Linux user for 20 years: in my days I has to compile X by hand if I wanted a graphic interface.

      Linux users for 10 years: kinda worked, sometimes you had to install the same a couple of times with different configurations until one worked for you.

      Linux user for 5 years: lmao, this easier than windows.

  • HuntressHimbo@lemmy.zip
    2·
    3 days ago

    Flashbacks to having pavucontrol open, editing default.pa and watching pulse crash over and over trying to get echo cancelling working

  • sundaymidnight@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    3 days ago

    what is Pipeware? only install other thing, Linux is rich of alternatives (you don’t have to cry for convincing to MS/Apple)

  • Hellfire103@lemmy.caEnglish
    21·
    3 days ago

    You know, I don’t get this joke. I have been using Linux and BSD since 2019, and the only incident I ever had was with sndio(7), and that was because I decided to switch to the -current branch of OpenBSD without heeding the warnings.

    Apart from that, whether I was using ALSA, PulseAudio, PipeWire, JACK, or OSS (on FreeBSD), I always had a perfect experience.

  • HuntressHimbo@lemmy.zip
    0·
    3 days ago

    Flashbacks to having pavucontrol open, editing default.pa and watching pulse crash over and over trying to get echo cancelling working

  • B-TR3E@feddit.org
    34·
    3 days ago

    I’ve been using “Linux audio”, namely jack, Ardour, freewheeling, hydrogen e.a. for more than a decade. But you can take your shiny pipewire and shove it where the sun doesn’t shine.