• crystalmerchant@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    What the fuck does 5 minute charge mean? Zero to full in 5 minutes? For that big of a battery I believe that is not physically possible

    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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      2 months ago

      All EV batteries aren’t “a battery that size”. They’re a bunch of small batteries all strung together. The “battery that size” statement you made is pretty much meaningless.

      It’s very much physically possible to charge a battery pack at mostly empty to mostly full in 5 minutes. The tech and chemical side of actually getting it done hasn’t quite officially happened yet. Battery charge\discharge rates are measured in “C”. One C is an hour for a 0 to 100% charge. So six C would be 0 to 100 in 10 minutes. That’s doable right now. You’d need 12 C for a 0 to 100% charge in 5 minutes. That hasn’t happened yet, but it’s getting pretty close. 11 C can be done to go from 0 to 80%.

      Likely, BYD’s charging statement is based for the regular layman such as yourself and refers to something along the lines of a charge from 10% up to 80%.

      As a side note, it’s also annoying having these “new EV battery has x amount of range” is dumb. You could get that range 20 years ago if you made the battery pack a lot bigger. What you need to know is the energy density and the size. Like 400 WH per kilogram is currently a really good capacity. Double what you could get from like five years ago.

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      2 months ago

      Another question: is how many charge / discharge cycles are possible?

      Usually the faster you charge a cell, the fewer times you can do so.

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        2 months ago

        The main problem is having a charger with enough power to fill the battery that fast. But it’s more of an infrastructure problem.

        Also the numbers given are usually for a 80% charge. I don’t know if it’s the case here, but probably.

        • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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          2 months ago

          I believe those chargers are battery to battery, not grid to battery. You don’t need 2.5Mw connection directly to the charger. You charge the charger’s battery at normal speed and then pump it into the car rapidly. This means that you can charge only couple of cars in a row at that speed.