cross-posted from : https://lemmy.zip/post/60387297
Proton Mail provided Swiss authorities with payment data for defendtheatlantaforest@protonmail.com — the account linked to Stop Cop City protests in Atlanta. The FBI obtained this information through a Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty request on January 25, 2024, identifying the activist behind the anonymous account through their credit card identifier.
We still blaming basic OpSec mistakes on Proton?
Remember when Switzerland was neutral?
When was that? They took in the Nazi gold.
Switzerland is not a safe jurisdiction.
No, they responded to a legal request by the swiss government to provide banking details.
And that’s why I only use Proton’s free tiers. If they are going to openly support Dementia Don and openly hand out their users to fascist governments like Spain or the US, then I can at least do my part by being a financial burden to them.
This is one of the most insane and detached takes I’ve ever seen
They complied with Swiss law. Only the name on the credit card was given.
Could’ve paid with crypto, choose not to.
I’m not sure entering the ponzi scheme that is cryptocurrencies would have helped in this case.
or even cash
Yeah using a public ledger would have saved the FBI having to get a warrant, especially given how in bed crypto-exchanges are with Trump
My question is what’s the legal requirements for payments? How long do they have to keep transaction records and do they have to connect this to accounts? This should be available in the ToS(but cannot find this). Compare with Mullvad (https://mullvad.net/en/help/no-logging-data-policy) (Edit: spelling)
I’m pretty sure proton offers a crypto payment of some form. Which would mean if this person had used that instead of a credit card, theoretically there wouldn’t be anything to subpoena.
Either way, email isn’t exactly safe.
If I remember correctly, payment data is required to be logged for 10 years.
Edit: This varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but it’s normally 5-10 years.
proton mail and tutanota(?) are both walled garden faking it as if theyre super safe






