What kind of fucking court would accept AI output as evidence, even for probable cause? Where has it ever been validated? What are the documented Type 1 and Type 2 error rates in independent peer-reviewed tests? Where is the output that gives the rationale for why it said there was a match? Because without that, there’s no more reason to believe it than a Magic 8-Ball.
And holy shit, she’s 50? That’s three miles of bad Tennesee road.
doesn’t sound like a court was even involved. per the article, she was held in jail 5 months before even being interviewed by police. that sounds entirely unconstitutional?? how does that even happen? like someone said below, i hope she is able to sue for millions. this is insane
According to the court documents, the Fargo detective working the case then looked at Lipps’ social media accounts and Tennessee driver’s license photo.
In his charging document, the detective wrote that Lipps appeared to be the suspect based on facial features, body type and hairstyle and color.
Seems like a possibility the detective could have conveniently “forgot” to mention that the initial identification was by AI.
And holy shit, she’s 50? That’s three miles of bad Tennesee road.
Alcohol can be rough on the body.
Let’s not forget about this part:
On Christmas Eve, five days after the interview with Fargo police, the case was dismissed, and she was released from jail.
But, Lipps was now stranded in Fargo.
“I had my summer clothes on, no coat, it was so cold outside, snow on the ground, scared, I wanted out but I didn’t know what I was going to do, how I was going to get home,” Lipps said.
Fargo police did not cover Angela’s expenses to get home after her release from jail. Local defense attorneys gave her money to pay for a hotel room and food on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.
This shit was barely one step up from a “starlight tour,” and only because she didn’t actually die of exposure.
It’s sadistic on top of being unjust. The cops need to [redacted].
No, cops jailed her!
AI can’t put handcuffs on a person.
It can’t even make a decision.
Stop deflecting the blame.vendors certainly deserve a share for convincing cops their shit is flawless.
here’s another example, where the cops trusted the casino AI face matching over the guy’s own identifications (plural, all kinds of IDs on him and he had a CDL etc.,)
Yes, the vendors share part of the blame.
The AI doesn’t.Edit for clarification: AI can’t share any blame. It’s a computer program.
The company that makes it is fully responsible for what it does, and the cops are responsible for believing its output over actual proof.boy you really stan for shitty code don’t you? the AI did nothing wrong, it’s only bad people.
guess what buddy: simping for AI isn’t going to save you. What a pickme tho lol… jfc
You completely, utterly misunderstood my comment.
What do you propose? Put the AI on trial for false imprisonment?AI can’t share any blame.
nah man, open your horizons. there’s plenty of blame to go around.
You’ve completely missed the point. Nobody is saying that AI is fine and trustworthy.
How do you propose to punish software? How are you going to compel compensation, retribution, or justice from a computer program? It’s not possible. Nor should one even try - because it wasn’t AI that arrested her, it wasn’t AI that left her in jail for months, it wasn’t AI that fucked her over. It was cops that trusted shitty AI.
AI sucks - nobody in this thread is arguing against that. There’s lots of shitty software, though. The problem with AI is that is that those in power are trusting people’s lives with it and people are getting fucked because of it. If you’re focusing on the software, you’re excusing the cops.
How do you propose to punish software?
tazer the servers repeatedly while screaming “STOP RESISTING”
Your lack of imagination is sad.
What a bunch of incompetent pigs. I hope she sures for millions.
More money out of our pockets to cover for these useless fucks
Also this is the best part in the article:
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Sue the software company for defamation.
Spoiler, it wasn’t AI but a detective and a failed system abdicating using any thought.
Why did it take 5 months to even interview her? What the fuck it’s happening in US jails.
Yeah the 5 months thing… That’s the difference between having a $400/hour lawyer and no lawyer. The first guy could get you out by 6:00 p.m. on bail. If you have no lawyer, your appointment to be assigned lawyer is scheduled for next month.
Sue baby sue
"Fargo police did not cover Angela’s expenses to get home after her release from jail. Local defense attorneys gave her money to pay for a hotel room and food on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.
The day after Christmas, F5 Project founder Adam Martin drove Lipps to Chicago so she could get home to Tennessee. Fargo-based F5 Project is an organization providing services and resources to individuals struggling with incarceration, mental health and addiction."
It’s bittersweet to read bits like this. It reminds me of the Mr Rogers line about how, in a disaster, you should “look for the helpers” if you need reminders of goodness to avoid becoming demoralised.
I am glad that there are so many good people who are fighting for real justice — even people who have committed crimes don’t deserve the inhumane treatment they experience under our legal system. I wish it weren’t necessary though. These small kindnesses don’t make up for all the ways this imprisonment fucked up her life.
I hope she sues and makes it hurt.
ACAB
