Nextcloud, Ionos and other partners are developing an open-source office suite under the project name „Euro-Office“ as an alternative to the market-dominant Microsoft Office.
The two partners are not starting from scratch, but have forked the components of OnlyOffice available as open-source code and want to build on them. In the summer, the software is then intended to replace the previous office component Collabora in Nextcloud and the Ionos Nextcloud Workspace. A ‘technical preview’ is already available on GitHub.
While this is a good news, I think they should move from github, you know microslop copilot…
Why don’t they contribute to LibreOffice Online?
That was my thought and Nextcloud already supports Collabora Office which is a fork of LibreOffice Online I believe.
OpenXchange is also part of the IONOS group. I don’t understand why they don’t focus on one solution to make it as good as possible.
Because it’s RDP based (unless something has changed). OnlyOffice is HTTP based, so it slots in perfectly for online portals.
Sounds good to me! I hope they support the open document formats better than onlyoffice currently does. Also euro-office isn’t a particularly good name, although it has the advantage of being explicit about where it’s based.
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Honestly this stinks of potential enshitification downstream. Libreoffice and Openoffice are just fine. Nextcloud’s posture in the market and “Brand name feel” sets of my alarm that it is like 5 minutes away from charging people subscriptions for self-hosting if they don’t already. Synology runner up?
Nextcloud’s business model is service contracts. Which is going great. The origin story of Nextcloud is that ownCloud was too commercial (open core) instead of fully open source, so they forked it. I haven’t seen any moves by Nextcloud that has moved their focus from open source to hint at enshitification. Your claims are rather bold and without proof. Nextcloud doesn’t even use LibreOffice, but the online derivative Collabora. Also OpenOffice has been dead for more than a decade so I don’t know why you even reference that. Are you confusing this with the totally different OnlyOffice (‘only’ not ‘open’) which this news is actually about?
Their fork of OnlyOffice is actually because it is open core and they want it fully open source: https://github.com/Euro-Office/#euro-office-liberates-the-onlyoffice-code-base
I haven’t made any claims. My comment is about the “vibes” of NextCloud as a “product” and “company”, if you want objectivity in what i’m saying.
Im not a nextcloud user and it’s good that you personally don’t feel that they’ve made any moves towards enshitification but we’ve seen countless companies start with great and pure intentions that unfortunately throw that all out the window when: an opportunity to be a market leader, opportunity of profits becomes too great, or the userbase becomes significant enough. “Open Source” seems to unfortunately be part of the tech company corporate playbook.
We live in a world where organizations and companies get to change terms after sale now. While it is not zero sum, if you’re not exercising skepticism towards those trying to offer you something, you’re probably doing yourself a disservice. Nothing is truly free.
Also, OpenOffice is definitely not dead lol https://www.openoffice.org/
Nextcloud uses GNU AGPLv3 and explicitly doesn’t use a CLA: https://github.com/nextcloud/server/blob/master/contribute/HowToApplyALicense.md. They do this to prevent themselves from relicensing it. So they can’t suddenly take the code and make it closed source.
Regarding OpenOffice. I used to be a big fan of OpenOffice more than a decade ago, but LibreOffice has become my open source office suite since then.
Apache OpenOffice (AOO) might still work, but there is no significant development (see commits of the last year https://github.com/apache/openoffice/graphs/contributors?from=2025-05-01&to=2026-04-02&type=c). Only one person is committing on a daily/weekly basis, but this person is in their own words not a developer (https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/202#issuecomment-2561915795). Most of the commits are ‘cleanup’ commits where whitespace or comments are changed https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commits/trunk/.
LibreOffice on the other hand is actively developed. Others who are actually involved explained this better than I can:
Nothing is truly free. Absolutely. They are living of their contracts and are doing rather well.
That leads me to my point: there are profits and they are already bring made. (Yeah capitalism, can always be more. But since they started as a fork they know the risks and might not even feel that that is the right way to go.)
Skepticism yay, feeling something is legitimate but shouldn’t be a guiding beacon for the general public.
This project is not “Nextcloud” only. There are eight vendors competing on Nextcloud also contributing.
The article is on a ‘pay or ok’ site.
They need to come up with a less cringe name than EuroOffice if they want any adoption. Not going to replace nationalism with pan-European nationalism.
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Nice. Public beta: https://github.com/Euro-Office/
Interesting, it is a fork of Onlyoffice.
Yup, with the few closed source parts rewritten in OSS, and a full audit conducted. Guessing they chose it since it is more modern than Libre and web-native.
I tried Nextcloud. I didn’t find it great for syncing files. I’m the only user of the server and keep getting merge conflicts.
Moved to OpenCloud which has been much more stable, if not as feature rich.
…if not as feature rich.
Nextcloud has groupware, opencloud doesn’t right?
Groupware?
term for software that support multiple people working on it at the same time, a la google docs or figma
web mail, calendars, contacts, etc
It sure sounds like you’re doing something wrong then because almost all of us who use that software don’t have that issue.
Hehe… the project is dying before it even started:
ONLYOFFICE has issued a formal notice regarding the “Euro-Office” project recently announced by #Nextcloud and #IONOS.
𝗕𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝗼𝗻 𝗽𝘂𝗯𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗹𝘆 𝗮𝘃𝗮𝗶𝗹𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗶𝗻𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻, 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗷𝗲𝗰𝘁 𝘂𝘀𝗲𝘀 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗻𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝘆 𝗱𝗲𝗿𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗱 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗢𝗡𝗟𝗬𝗢𝗙𝗙𝗜𝗖𝗘 𝗲𝗱𝗶𝘁𝗼𝗿𝘀 𝗶𝗻 𝘃𝗶𝗼𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗺𝘀, 𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗰𝗶𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆, 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗔𝗚𝗣𝗟𝘃𝟯 𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗲 𝘂𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗰𝗵 𝗢𝗡𝗟𝗬𝗢𝗙𝗙𝗜𝗖𝗘 𝗵𝗮𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗲𝗻 𝗱𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗯𝘂𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝟮𝟬𝟭𝟲.
The violations include:
- Removal of ONLYOFFICE branding and logo from derivative works
- Failure to provide proper attribution to the original technology
- Non-compliance with open-source distribution obligations under AGPLv3, Section 7
To be clear: ONLYOFFICE is #opensource. We actively support forks, integrations, and derivative works. Hundreds of partners build on our #technology every day: legally, transparently, and successfully.
The use of our technology without respecting the #legal conditions that govern it is unacceptable. Under Section 8 of AGPLv3, any breach of the license results in the automatic termination of all rights granted. Without a valid license, continued use constitutes copyright infringement.
𝗥𝗲𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗮𝗴𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝗲𝗹𝘀𝗲’𝘀 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗻𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝘆 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗽𝗹𝗶𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗶𝗴𝗻𝘁𝘆. 𝗜𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗮 𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗲 𝘃𝗶𝗼𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻.
𝗪𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗾𝘂𝗶𝗿𝗲 𝗳𝘂𝗹𝗹 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗶𝗺𝗺𝗲𝗱𝗶𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗽𝗹𝗶𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗮𝗽𝗽𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗱𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀.
Read the formal notice: https://onlyo.co/41Ci2gW
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Tried nextcloud, 3 updates per day, fuck off.
I moved my data there a couple of months ago and couldn’t be happier. Maybe try a different provider?
