Title says it all (i have turned on 165hz on settings). Its a cheap monitor, do some 165hz monitors not truly give you that experience? Or are my eyes fucked
Try the UFO test. https://www.testufo.com/
If you still can’t see the difference there may be a setting on the monitor or PC preventing you from seeing it.
Cool, I’ve never seen this before. Thanks!
I’ve never seen any difference with the top two with that test. My monitor is 144hz and TBH I might as well have saved my money and got 60Hz ones.
We’re not all hardcore gamers trained to see miniscule differences.
Humans can see a single solid color frame changing at 1000 fps. So if you don’t notice a difference between 60 and 165 fps something isn’t working. It’s not your eyes.
Seeing a solid color frame change is completely different from the minor changes generally occurring per frame, especially in media such as movies and games which are continuous.
The Hobbit movies at 48 instead of 24 fps still looked much smoother and better.
The difference shouldn’t be miniscule, though. If you’ve never been able to see a difference, my money’s on not setting the refresh rate in Windows. It’s not automatic.
It’s mostly marketing. Films are perfect at 24fps and gamer bros think they can see framerates ten times that.
Really? Movies at 24 fps are tolerable because we’re used to it and there’s a lot of motion blur, but any motion or panning shot still looks incredibly jerky. You have to get way up into the 100s of fps before you hit diminishing returns of smoothness, and even then it’s still noticeable.
…240FPS is insanely noticeable.
Do you have it enabled in Windows under display settings tho? It sounds like you aren’t actually having it enabled. Other possibility is that your monitor has very low response time and everything blurs.
I’m not sure it it’s possible to not see a difference in refresh rate jump this big until about 160Hz.
You’re either trolling or you have a 60hz monitor lawl
Or it just doesn’t work right in their browser. It says in big bold letters “VSYNC is not available on the Linux platform” and at 960 pixels per second I actually can’t tell the difference between the 100hz and 50hz lines. If I slow it to 480 pixels per second it becomes apparent, but I still feel like that’s browser funkiness rather than a true frame rate difference. I don’t think it’s actually running at 100fps.
It’s not my eyes, btw. I can usually tell the difference very easily. I had a problem with my Nvidia drivers for a while that would often make it reset to 60hz on reboot, instead of my display’s max of 100. It was always immediately obvious to me just from the mouse cursor, even without consciously looking for it.
LOL as I was writing this, I reloaded the page and now it’s very very obvious at 960. Something’s definitely inconsistent on my device. Go figure.
I’ve really upset the gamer bros here…
I use 165hz for art and productivity lawl
Twice the refresh rate means twice the frames, so I’m twice as productive.
Or at any rate, that’s what I’m telling my job to try to get them to buy me a high spec gaming monitor.
You dont have to be a hardcore gamer to see the difference. A lot of people who use phones see the difference 90/120hz makes over 60.
It’s wildly obvious if you grab a window and drag it around. Try having the settings on 60 and dragging it around when you change it to 165; it’s very glaringly obvious.
I thought you were talking about physical windows for a sec. Made no sense. I’m an idiot.
Please stop carrying huge glass panels around for no reason, that’s not a safe thing to do.
Lol. But I’m not done with my tests!
For me the difference was immediately noticeable. Even back in the old days I had to have at least a 75 Hertz monitor because 60 Hertz was slow enough that I could see the flicker pulse of the screens.
I will say I can’t notice much of an improvement from 144 Hertz to 165 and I haven’t had the chance to see a 240 yet, but anything under 75 is essentially unusable for me
What works best for me is simply moving the cursor quickly in a circle. On a higher refresh display, you’ll see much more “ghost” cursors at the same time.
I did that, I cant tell, iv had this problem on Linux and windows so its not an is issue either
What cable and interface are you using?
Have you configured your OS to use a higher refresh rate in monitor settings? The difference is night and day…
It should be wildly obvious just moving your mouse across the screen. Maybe your graphics adapter has an issue and isn’t properly setting the mode?
Ah I have the same problem with my laptop. It is set to 144hz but I don’t see any difference with the external 60hz monitor. I guess I’m genetically not built for eSports.
If you do quick circles with the cursor do you not see more frames of the mouse on the high refresh rate monitor?
If you have to do that sort of thing just to see the difference, I don’t think the difference is going to matter to you.
How else would you test the difference? By looking at a still picture?
The difference matters very much in high speed video games and this is the most basic of ways to test it.
I’m talking about whether or not they would care about a distance that you couldn’t just see while using it and had to do something specific to test for.
… I dunno about you, but I move my mouse quite regularly. I also scroll webpages.
You almost certainly have the settings screwed up. Your eyes worked have to be royally fucked to not see a 60 to 165 jump.
How are you testing? You can run the UFO test for a quick and dirty comparison: https://www.testufo.com/
More subjectively, you could load up a game you know well and start it at 30FPS. Wave your mouse around a bit looking for blurring or artefacting, then step it up to test 60, 90, 120, etc to see if you can tell the difference.
When you say “settings”, did you check the settings on the monitor menus too? And in your graphics card settings, outside the game?
What cable is connecting your monitor to your PC?
I’ve done UFO, and the top one looks a bit nicer IG? Might be placebo. Fanes are much the smae, I think theres a difference but I’m not sure
I’ll tell you the other info when I get home
You may have to set the refresh rate manually to go higher than 60hz. Things should look much smoother.
Run ‘xrandr -q’ and see if it gives you multiple refresh rates for your displays.
Also, what GPU are you using?
RX 6600 on fedora 38 (a extension I like isn’t on 39 yet)
Is it possible that there are ghosting issues with the panel? I had a 120hz monitor at work at one point that had ghosting issues so bad it made it look barely any better than a 60hz panel. Going from 60hz to 120hz+ should definitely be noticeable to most people
That’s my current theory, BC that monitor is a super cheap acer monitor
If its a cheap VA panel and not an IPS one, the chances of smear is fairly high
If you have a phone that does high rate slo-mo you can video record the screen when you switch modes and see if the rate is actually changing or not. Have an object moving around the screen while you’re recording the switch. Note that I’ve not tried this myself, I’m just working off of theory.
I’ll never forget when I went from 60hz to 165hz, everything seemed so fluid and smooth. I couldn’t imagine going back.
Check your mouse cursor by moving fastly left to right and back and again. With 60 Hz you’ll see 5-6 cursor renders (depending on your distance obviously) and with 100 Hz it should be double that. 144hz a lot more cursor renders appear. White cursor, black background or inverted for better visibility. Thats my fast check to see if the settings are correctly set.
My experience of 144hz is that in terms of seeing a difference, it’s not much. I mostly see it when looking around a scene and the movement is more fluid. However, what you can notice isn’t as much as what makes a difference in games.
I tried the dust2 awp test map on 60hz and 144hz. The difference with how many I could hit with 144hz was not down to chance and was quite repeatable. I think (and it’s just a layman theorizing here) that unconsciously our muscle memory, or hand/eye co-ordination are working on cues beyond what we consciously see. And this is why it helps for split second game decisions like this.
My opinion is, if you cannot see the difference consciously and you don’t play FPS then maybe you should de-prioritize refresh rates over other monitor features. There’s nothing wrong with that.
You might not notice anything at first, but after some days of gaming and then going back, you’ll probably notice the difference then.
I’ve had the monitor for a year
Me being super jealous of everyone here going to 144 or 165 when I just upgraded my pc a few months ago to finally use 120 on my current ultrawide monitor.
All I can say is even 120 from 60 was amazing and very obvious. As someone else said the biggest wow moment was just moving desktop items around and it being super smooth.
I do know there are a bunch of settings you may need to change to make sure your using the correct settings above 60. Check the advanced display settings which should list out all resolutions with refresh rate to pick. Sometimes monitors need to be set. Sometimes the driver software for the GPU has options for it listed. I know on mine I had to have freesync enabled as well. Lots of variables that may keep it from being set correctly to check. I remember setting up my audio equipment and you think your using everything correctly then realize your advanced settings had an option set to like 44 bit rate instead of at least something more reasonable like 192.
I use Linux so its just the one toggle in is settings, but you’re right, I might have to double check my monitor settings
If you’re using x11 and have another 60hz monitor it may be an issue with vsync. Wayland shouldn’t have this issue.
Personally I don’t notice 75 vs 144 unless I’m playing a first person game with a lot of quick movement.
Yeah I’m using wayland
You’re only going to notice if the thing playing goes up to 165fps. If you’re, say, watching a movie or video you won’t notice anything because there’s nothing to notice.
Play a game that you can get really high FPS in (maybe Half Life 1 which a modern machine should have no trouble getting 300+). Limit it to 60. Check it out. Then go up to 144. Then 165.
Also if you have an nVidia GPU, it may not be setting the refresh rate properly. I constantly have this issue with driver updates resetting it back to 30hz on my machine. You gotta go into the Nvidia control panel, find the display settings and scroll down somewhere toward the bottom is a refresh rate setting. Change that to the highest your display can use.
