• Drewmeister@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Yes, but, from the article: ”GrapheneOS also says governments and banks are increasingly adopting these verification systems for things like payments, digital ID apps, and age verification services.

      “Instead of governments stopping Apple and Google from engaging in egregiously anti-competitive behavior, they’re directly participating in locking out competition via their own services,” Graphene said."

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        Exactly, it’s not only about fighting Google, it’s also about setting a better, more open standard for the rest of the market.

        Recently my bank has rolled out a new mobile app now relying on Google wallet for NFC payment. I was able to use NFC payment on GrapheneOS on the old app, I can’t on the new one. The online banking stuff still works (for now) but no more mobile payment for me. I didn’t sign a fucking contract with Google, why would I hand over my payment data to them !

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        Yep, my own government (UK), have rolled out a digital ID app that only works with Play Services intact, so I had to jump through hoops to prove my ID so I could renew my driving licence. It’s bullshit.

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      Here’s a list I had compiled of non Google/Apple alternatives.

      • Murena (France) with /e/OS (France) on:
        • Fairphone (Netherlands)
        • Hiroh (USA)
        • SHIFTphone (Germany)
        • Teracube (USA)
      • Punkt MC03 (Switzerland)
      • Volla (Germany) with Volla OS or Ubuntu Touch (Germany)
      • Jolla (Finland) with Sailfish OS (Finland)
      • Furilabs (China) with FuriOS (pronounced “furious”) based on Debian with Phosh UI.
      • Purism Librem (USA, manufactured in the USA)
      • Pine64 (China) Pinephone with Manjaro (Germany), postmarketOS (?) or Mobian (USA)

      https://jlai.lu/post/37072765/20908909

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      I just made the switch to Graphene a few days ago and I found it fitting that my government’s digital id app couldn’t be installed on my phone anymore. Oh well.