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- cross-posted to:
- selfhosted@lemmy.world
Plex has announced a massive price increase on the service’s Lifetime Plex Pass. On July 1, the lifetime subscription option will go from $249.99 to $749.99, an increase of 200%. The price hike will only apply to new subscribers, with no changes to monthly or annual subscription pricing.
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Honestly if you’re a smaller server, or anywhere decent at tinkering Jellyfin is the better product at this point
I tried switching and I’ll try again. But getting https reverse proxy was a lot of moving parts that I never got working.
The instructions were a long chain of learning:
Install ngnx for reverse proxy
Ngnx only available as docker
Install docker
Docker not working because I don’t understand it.
Install podman
Give up and go back to 3d printing where I have a backlog of stuff that actually needs to be done.
Nginx does not require docker…
I think it’s the other way around. Jellyfin recommends docker.
Just install tailscale and run everything behind it. Too easy to set up
Can a random person (my mother in law and other non techie family) connect to my tailscaled jellyfin using a Roku or AppleTV? I thought tailscale needs a wireguard client.
Well they can if those tvs allow the tailscale app to be installed. If not then Walmart sells very cheap ONN 4K boxes for like 20 bucks and then the tailscale and jellyfin apps can be installed on that.
Wait wait wait so… you pay THEM to let YOU share YOUR media? Wha?
Not really. What Plex is selling is a relay service, so you can connect to your home media remotely, just like you can do with Tailscale etc. the second thing they are selling is user management, easily share media library with other people. Both of these are hard to set up for many people in Jellyfin
That’s just gonna drive lazy people to learn how to use something open source like Jellyfin.
I can kind of understand why they don’t want users buying a lifetime pass. It means they will not get any further funding from that person. It’s worth the tradeoff when you are smaller and need funding, but kind of a hinderance once you are more established.
Either way, I’m glad I purchased the lifetime pass when it was much cheaper years ago.
Ok cool, now let me stream to my own network locally without the internet…
you had one fucking job, Plex!
I really should get around to kicking my setup over to jellyfin and navidrome.
Yes you should. I run both and absolutely love them.
Massive price hike causes massive customer hike to Jellyfin lol
I wonder if instead of Jellyfin + Tailscale, people should be doing Jellyfin + Netbird.
Netbird offers a reverse proxy, so you can easily expose Jellyfin to the public Internet and not have to jump through hoops for friends and family…
https://docs.netbird.io/manage/reverse-proxy
At least, in theory… I haven’t tried this setup yet, but I’m thinking about it…
I bought my parent’s an Android TV, just so they could install Tailscale on it. Unfortunately, Android TV keeps killing Tailscale or doesn’t launch it on boot. They’re old, so they can’t really troubleshoot VPN issues.
I use Jellyfin with Wireguard, Caddy, and Fail2Ban https://codeberg.org/skjalli/jellyfin-vps-setup
tailscale also offers a reverse proxy through their “funnel” - https://tailscale.com/docs/features/tailscale-funnel
but I’ve been looking at netbird and might switch, so who knows what i’ll be using a year from now
Headscale doesn’t though and I’d be willing to bet the self hosted jellyfin types are more likely to also be using headscale than tailscale.
What is plex?
Sounds like an expensive immitation of Jellyfin
It was the first one around. Very mature, very solid piece of software. Has clients for everything.
Jellyfin guys
Posted this link earlier and it got deleted with no mod log. Anyone able to explain so I can avoid future issues?
I got a Plex Lifetime Pass mainly for Plexamp + Tidal, but then they removed the Tidal integration. Roon lifetime pass is similar to what Plex is now, which is basically the only other option for this that exists right now.
Just ask for the customer’s first born at this stage…
I already have lifetime but there have been increasingly more and more yellow/orange flags recently.
For you jellyfin folk: Is there a good solution to being able to cache/download episodes/movies ahead of time for “offline mode” with any of the android clients yet? Last time I checked that was a pain point and most solutions boiled down to “just download the file and use VLC”. At which point… why am I running a media server when I can just mount a samba share at home?
My sole problem with jellyfin is the ease of use for remote access. I can’t explain to my 60 year old mom, or 80 year old grandma how to set up a VPN.
I’ve said this exact same thing in the past, and been shouted down by the Jellyfin crowd. There is a lot of apologia in the FOSS community, and Jellyfin is one of the worst offenders. It has several known security exploits, and should never be accessible outside of your LAN. But every time I mention it, I inevitably get some chud responding with “lol I’ve had my port forwarded for years and been fine” as if that is a valid security audit.
And this means your only real option for remote access is a VPN. But that makes sharing with friends/family extremely difficult.
Especially if those family/friends also want to run their own servers, because Jellyfin doesn’t have a centralized “here are all of your servers” home page.
It also means you end up playing administrator to all of the “I forgot my password for the ninth time this week, can you reset it for me” inane requests.
Plex does all of those things really well. Want to share with a friend? Just send them an invite link, and they can access it with their own account. Want to access multiple servers, because you have a few friends who also run theirs? Easy, they can send invite links to you, and you’ll access them all directly through the home page. Family member forgot their password? They can click the button and follow the prompts to reset it themselves.
Especially true on reddit, the Plex hate is real - yes they’re raising lifetime pass, but it’s not valuable to them for you to buy it. That’s why it’s raised until you only want to use the subscription.
It also means you end up playing administrator to all of the “I forgot my password for the ninth time this week, can you reset it for me” inane requests.
Jellyfin is a self-hosted streaming service. You have just understood the concept of self-hosting, Sir.
your only real option for remote access is a VPN. But that makes sharing with friends/family extremely difficult.
The first part is true. The latter is exaggerated. Yes, it’s more of a hassle than just “install the app, follow a link and you’re done.” That said, if done through wg-easy (a wireguard configuration frontend), it’s “install two apps, scan a QR code, enter a server URL and you’re done.” Also, corporations spoon-feeding users, creating an expectation that tech just magically knows who I am and works on fairydust and rainbows, that’s what got us into this mess. Expecting a modicum of setting up from the user isn’t too much to ask if they can then access somebody else’s services for free.
Yes, an Android app called Streamyfin.
What flags have you seen?
People are freaking out that paid software is paid.
How’s that corpo boot taste? If you lick it real hard maybe you’ll get your own boots, but only if you lick real shiny.
Don’t use Plex if you don’t want to. Nobody is forcing you. I swear some people are more angry about this than something like MS Office
With office nobody expected good things, that was the difference
