This is something that The Satanic Temple needs to get on board with.
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FWIW, The Satanic Temple is different from The Church of Satan and/or the Satanic Church. To start with, we don’t believe in Satan.
AI Satan does sound horrendously hellish, though. “You’re correct, and you are absolutely right to call me out on it! I can see now how submerging you in searing hot lye would be unpleasant, especially after you begged me to stop! Here, let me try again, this time paying extra attention to not submerging you in searing hot lye.” <Proceeds to submerge you in searing hot lye>
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AI Satan just lacks the soul of regular Satan, you know what I mean?
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The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one’s own.
tl;dr:
Maus is a Unitarian Universalist, a pluralistic religion that’s rooted in the inherent worth of every person. In April, she argued that AI didn’t align with her religious beliefs, citing environmental and ethical concerns.
Just so you know which religion to convert to.
I mean, hypothetically couldn’t you just pick any belief structure outside of the top ten and make shit up? I’m a card carrying member of The Satanic Temple (which also puts an emphasis on human worth and social conscience) and I feel like I could swing this.
Wow, you actually got your card?
They made no promises, but I sent my $20, never saw my card and that’s fine.
The goat ate it
I think you can literally purchase a membership card on their site if you want.
I’m sure.
When I was 12 I wanted to buy the cert for the Flying Spaghetti Monster. My parents weren’t cool enough.
There were already 100 reasons why the Unitarians are where it’s at.
But I really don’t think this is reason 101. All we have here is someone who asked their employer for this and was fortunate enough to have it granted.
That means nothing for anyone else. There is not some national law that all Unitarians have this protected right now.
So yeah… you might as well try on grounds that it offends Allah, because you’ll have the same odds.
Guys I think I just found religion.
Join the Satanic Temple or some Humanist org or something. For some reason people lose their minds if your religion is just “none”, but are at least more ok with it being something, even if the something had only one tenet and that was “none”.
It’s because they can understand a difference of philosophy or beliefs but cannot comprehend a total rejection of the concept of belief. It’s too alien to a central aspect of their identity and challenges their perceived connection to existence.
Source: I’ve been making people uncomfortable by being openly hostile to religion for a long time.
Yep.
So, would you like to not talk about my not religion with me?
I’m an atheist who joined a UU church (the religion being discussed in the article) this past January and I’ve loved it, I’m actually not at all surprised this sort of thing is coming out of UU
“I’m a Butlerian.”
But did you type that on your thinking machine?
I’m pretty sure that in Dune, all computers are banned, not just AI. You can’t even have a ship with a navigation computer.
How about an atheist exemption?
Would be nice if philosophical stances were treated equal to religious ones, so if something is against your philosophical stances you could get the same exemption a religious person could.
You can be an atheist and a member of a universalist Unitarian church, I am exactly that
or just let people opt out entirely flat out?
Try it. All we have here is someone with a very accommodating employer. It’s not like all Unitarians everywhere now have some court judgment backing them.
I despise AI, however, religious exceptions for work are stupid.
Go to work for your church/mosque/temple if it’s that important for you.
If you’re a Christian, live like a bird in the field, like Jesus says. Go pick through the garbage can and be content in your righteousness. You’re reward isn’t earthly, but in Heaven, right?
Also it usually it’s just ok for their approved religions, anything else you are being stubborn
I’m not religious but I feel like people should have a right to take their annual leave for their religious holidays, yeah?
People should be able to take annual leave for whatever they want, provided contractual agreements and sufficient advance notice. I don’t understand how any of it needs to do with religion.
Ok well say your company has ten people. One of them is a purpleite and every year the religion celebrates the merging of red and blue, every year - and it coincides with the superbowl. Seven of the ten people want to take that as a long weekend to watch the game. The company can handle this… but oh no! wait, two of the remaining employees are related and share a mother who has people coming after her for personal reasons. She wants to send her kids to somewhere safe so she sends them to west philly. It turns out that’s where the merging happens so the three of them can drive over together. Meanwhile two people have to cancel their superbowl plans to accommodate the purplite. The two related employees get to live safely with their mother’s sister and her husbandi think that this is fine, it sucks for the superbowl crew but that’s not as important as someone’s religion or someone’s family situation. I think if you read this and look in the mirror you will see it all with a fresh understanding.
Are you guys trying to get religion banned?
It might help.
At this point, I feel like religion >> blind corporate loyalty. At least religion still pretends to care about people
If you could ban religion, or ban AI, which would you ban?
If you ban religion AI will become people’s God. So that is really not an option.
Religion has caused so much suffering though.
A blanket ban on AI seems extreme, perhaps banning commercialization would be the way to go so no one can try and profit from it. Obviously corporations would not like this idea.
If you ban religion AI will become people’s God.
Say more here. It’s an interesting claim. Why do you see this as inevitable? I’m an atheist and AI has not become my god.
Well, I am just basing it off the fact that a bunch of people are already using AI in this fashion. Without something to fill this gap I think AI would be a likely candidate.
https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/silicon-valleys-obsession-with-ai-looks-a-lot-like-religion/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Way_of_the_Future
It has already become common for existing religions to use AI to answer spiritual questions and preachers have started using it to write sermons.
I think cutting people off of traditional religion would accelerated this AI god concept. This is just my opinion of course.
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Maybe I am religious…
In a country where most states are fire-at-will. You don’t have the cultural integrity to effectively use something like this.
Trying to start a long, boring conversation about ethics has worked so far to keep people from forcing their slop machines on me, but it’s nice to know there are options
Now you can do both!
That’s it, I’m converting to Mechanicus. Abominable Intelligence is techno-heresy, Ave Omnissiah!
Even in death, I serve the Omnissiah.
thank god.
“You can now get an exemption” is a huge overstatement.
Someone in North Carolina asked for it and happened to get it from her employer. That does not provide any firm basis for anyone else to follow. Any of us could have tried this last month with the same odds we have now.
That’s one way to make the Catholic church popular again.
I’m considering joining the catholic church specifically to make it easier to get an exemption !
