I switched from Gmail to Proton, but now with everything coming out about Proton I’m switching from them too. I started using Posteo which I like but a lot of my accounts having to do with money and finance (including my bank) aren’t accepting the Posteo email. They have rejected it over and over and even locked me out stating that I was hacked.
Do you guys have any recommendations for email providers to use that also won’t send red flags to my more official accounts?
If it helps, I’m US-based.
Posteo is a very legitimate email provider based in Germany. Your bank is really stupid for flagging and rejecting it, their is absolutely nothing about them that should trigger their systems.
An alternative would be Mailbox, it’s very similar to Posteo and I have made good experiences with it.
Why did you switch away from Proton? Most drama surrounding it is very overblown and the consequences of being a large company, not everyone always does everything right who works for them.
I agree, I haven’t felt like there’s any reason for these accounts to flag me.
I’ve seen Mailbox be floated around, I’ll definitely give it a look. Thank you
Besides their controversies and responses I’m not really a huge fan of their shift to a large suite. Its feeling very google adjacent and I don’t want to put my eggs all in one basket again. While they’re really convenient and easy to use, I just think they’re not for me and my needs anymore.
Proton’s free plan only has one filter. One filter! That’s ridiculous; they basically make it like a nearly unusable preview or just a spam box…
What’s the issue with proton?
Its more of a personal thing. Theyre fine. I started to not like that they’ve become a, I’m not sure of the right term, but a google-like hub where I store all my info. (Email, drive, VPN, meets, etc.). Plus I dont want to support a company that aligns themselves with far-right ideologies. So it is a personal thing, but they work well enough.
I’ve been gradually using more of their services, now I’m not so sure anymore… What do you make of their response?
They offer a very convenient suite, so if you feel it works for you, no judgment here. The response you linked is kinda nice to take accountability for supporting (in a way) a controversial creator. Unfortunately it’s not enough for me. They openly support Trump (which I understand is a personal preference) and I was starting to get uncomfortable with how much their suite began to feel a lot like google. I dont really want to put all of my eggs in one basket again, y’know?
They don’t get ad revenue, and they don’t have a huge percent of paid users, so by expanding its offerings, they can attract note paid customers, and now businesses-which will both support their free tier customers. I’m happy they didn’t “enshittify” and drop free or go ad based.
Idk about the right wing thing, but if they’re outside the US, their “right wing” is probably far different than the maga extreme here. understand that’s all propaganda by the left and billionaire class, and the amount of actual Trump supporters is small.
I’m not at all supporting Trump either by this comment it’s usually the billionaires who own the ads, the media, and keep everyone busy with “left vs right” or black vs white so we don’t look “up” at the wealthy who control everything making our real problems.
Oh yea honestly for a bit there I was pretty happy to be using a more privacy-friendly suite. But after a while it just kind of started feeling a bit too familiar to our “do no evil”-removing google and I got uncomfortable.
Totally, not every country’s “right-wing” is the same. But unfortunately they have been very open about their support for Trump and many other questionable people. I feel like their interests greatly contradict their model for privacy. It’s a lil spooky.
I believe in this sub there is another post showing Proton’s official response to their latest controversy which has ultimately led to my decision.
But I will miss the convenience of their suite. I do view their products as pretty solid.
Their suite of apps directly competes with Google’s and their webmail does feel very familiar compared to Gmail. But that’s where similarities end. So far, being non-US based of the biggest factor as well as offering a site of trustworthy apps that function well.
Unless that changes (with privacy), I’m OK with it being bigger and popular. It’s also A LOT easier to convince friends and family to switch to something “branded” vs indie Dev or get them to install something from Github. It gives the general population a sense of trust, smaller/lesser known apps can do.
And that is all completely fine for you to choose for yourself. Would be nice to see a mass migration away from google to proton over all of the blind support google gets.
I’ve been using Mailbox.org, both private and for my business, for 5 years now. I have nothing bad to say about them or their service.
Well. I would like to see a referral program! They have a lot of paying customers because of me, but you don’t get anything in return.
I’ve been using Migadu for last couple years with no issues. All you need is a custom domain.
You can bring your own client, but there’s webmail too (requires no JS if I recall) so you can access your inbox from anywhere too.
One with my own domain name attached has always been my go-to because I can migrate to a different provider easily without needing to update all my accounts.
I’ve not found a viable replacement for mxroute (I know us based). All the other email services seem to be priced by the number of accounts. I have a bunch of accounts I need to keep separate, some personal and some business. Some accounts have a few aliases as well. But Aliases just don’t cut it on their own.
Mailbox.org seems a decent choice.
You can stick with Posteo and use email aliases for sites that don’t like it
Financial institutions often block Posteo because their spam filters flag the provider’s open relay reputation or shared infrastructure as high-risk, rather than evaluating the specific user’s trustworthiness. To mitigate this without using mainstream services, consider self-hosting an email address via a reputable upstream provider or using a dedicated alias service that offers strong DKIM/SPF alignment to pass corporate gateway checks.
