• delikt@lemmy.zip
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    27 days ago

    Its so strange for Europeans to read this because we don’t let Weapons randomly lay around armorized and our Walls are not that thin, that this can happen such as easy as with US paperwalls

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      27 days ago

      Yeah, sure, you have that. But we have shitty healthcare and poor collective bargaining rights!

      Wait…I lost where I was going with this, lol.

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      26 days ago

      I guarantee that whatever gun did this could probably go through most internal building walls in European homes too. It’s a gun, not a nerf dart.

      Of course, unless it came in from outside the building. In which case, brick would probably stop it, yeah. I’d probably know if I read the article, but, ya know how it goes.

      But yes on that first part.

      *Guys, I get it. I appreciate you all measuring your walls for me, but I get it. We can stop now.

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        26 days ago

        Walls between apartments are usually 25cm thick brick walls or even concrete in Austria. Worked in the field. Drywalls are very unusual even inside a flat. Most of the time you have 12cm thick brick walls.

        So a bullet going from flat to flat is veeeryyy unlikely.

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          23 days ago

          I’m not from the field - but i’m from Austria ty for your expertise… I was wondering about the bricks comments i have no bricks in Walls and i think the Walls to my Neighbour are thicker then the Walls in my own Apartment… But not sure ofc

          I tought it need at least heavyer Military Weapons to shoot trought it from another Apartment 🤷‍♂️

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        27 days ago

        Small firearms go through ~10cm thick bricks but not through a computer?

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          26 days ago

          Depends on the material composition and number of other objects it went through on the way to the computer.

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      27 days ago

      Bro, unless its a .22 LR, pretty much every caliber is going to go through most building materials no matter where you live. You don’t have magic bulletbroof walls where you live. 😂

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        27 days ago

        Have you ever shot at brick or stone? Yeah, the right caliber will go right through, but it’s not flying through with near the same velocity as through drywall, paint, and dreams , the stuff my walls are made of right now.

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          27 days ago

          I didn’t say different materials don’t do anything, but yeah, a lot of rifle calibers are going through brick. Especially hunting calibers, of which there are a LOT here.

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            27 days ago

            I can’t say for sure, I only shoot skeet and wood targets on dirt/ground-backed hills.

            But https://www.atomicdefense.com/blogs/news/can-bullets-go-through-brick seems to say: “Heavier rounds such as a 7.62x39mm or .308 rifle may penetrate the walls of a brick-veneered house, but it is not likely”

            I could imagine a higher caliber hunting round going through a brick wall when pointed at it, but it should be rare to have a high caliber rifle loaded with high caliber rounds off-safety and able to be misfired by a child/dog/freak accident.

            And in the UK, that’s just pretty much too impossibly rare to be occurring. The likelihood is higher here, but god I wish it wasn’t

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              26 days ago

              I saw that link too, but there’s plenty of footage online that demonstrate brick will not stop everything.

              I don’t think a high caliber rifle is less likely to be negligently discharged than any other caliber. In the US a lot of people own hunting rifles. I don’t know the stats compared to other types of firearms, but I feel like that or a hunting shotgun would be the most pervasive, and thus statistically most likely to be used in an incident like this. That’s just an educated guess though, I may be off base on that one.