• WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
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        24 days ago

        It’s literal insanity how many people can’t see a consumer VPN ban as the logical next step. I swear most of the population have the critical thought of an NPC.

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          23 days ago

          It is true, but you don’t necessarily have to be a dick about it. The real question is, now, do we declare the internet dead? Are there alternatives? Are there ways to push back? It seems to be a worldwide move, so we’re all in the hole.

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        23 days ago

        Apple is already locked down. Googles already inching at locking down Android phones and governments seem primed to facilitate that. Clamping down on VPNs can be a driver for that. Being way more restrictive on routers too like the US and it’s foreign router bans

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    24 days ago

    Seems kinda like a pecking order. Target the young ones. And by prohibiting kids, you can ID everyone.

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      24 days ago

      That’s the thing. I’m not only perfectly fine with getting anyone under the age of 16 off the Internet, I’d also like to see everyone under the age of 21 off the Internet. But it has to be done in a way that utilizes the strength of modern technology and protects our privacy. It’s extremely doable to achieve this, and governments know this, but getting kids off the Internet is not what the government is trying to do.

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        Segregate the 16-21 to their own internet area so they arent radicalized by the old boomer ideas and they can form their own opinion.

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    24 days ago

    Guess some mid level government officials was sick of the Yo mum jokes in COD… About as stupid as the UK porn ban.

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    24 days ago

    One day someone who knows his arse from his elbow will be in a position to make decisions, but not today.

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      24 days ago

      We’ve been waiting for someone like that for a long time. I can’t even remember the previous actually-competent politician.

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        23 days ago

        Because candidates with any sort of real competence are weeded out early in their political careers by a press owned by the sort of people that would view actual leadership as a threat.

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    This is all silly. Just make parents feel responsible for their children. Settle with social media companies to start a joint fund that pays for PSAs about safe social media use on kids tv shows and stuff. The tobacco and alcohol industries have to do it, so why not social media? Though we will end up with an unstoppable 15 second ad before every YouTube video about not sharing personal info in the comments or DMs.

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    23 days ago

    I get that many view this as government overreach, but in this case I’m OK with it. If it hurts these platforms then so be it. A 10 year old has no business being on tiktok. I’ve got kids and I can police this stuff myself, to an extent, but I’ve seen many neglectful parents who just leave their kids to their own devices (figuratively and litterally). If this prevents children being prematurely exposed to these garbage platforms then I don’t personally see the issue, but I’m open to reasonable counter arguments.

    • Chulk@lemmy.ml
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      This is an overt invasion of everyone’s privacy to protect children. It will do nothing to stop children from accessing this content. On the contrary, it will likely push them to even more unsavory areas of the internet to get around it.

      20 years ago, the goal was to “protect us from terrorists,” and now the argument is “protect children from the world we created.” A year or two from now, they’ll realize that they didn’t go far enough with this, because children will use TOR and/or VPNs to get around it. Then they will come for those technologies. It is a transparent power grab by rightwing fanatics. It always has been and always will be.

    • TheDarkQuark@lemmy.world
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      Yeah, except this isn’t really about the children. This causes a lot of adults to face restrictions and submit their IDs to surveillance companies like Persona/Palantir. Also, I’m fairly certain you are aware why tying your identity to your browsing activity is a bad idea.

      Also, there are noninvasive ways to implement this, like:

      • Google’s Parental Controls (if you use Android/Google)
      • If you use Apple, then there are similar settings there too
      • If you are on a degoogled device, then use DNS filters, and lock apps to prevent changes

      I do not think everyone (including adults without children) needs to suffer because some parents find it hard to do parent.

      Also, I think this should be more about cracking down on addictive algorithms by social media companies (and holding them accountable) than enforcing a blanket ID collection. None of these laws do anything about that. Even adults are addicted to these platforms, and at best, all this law does is push the addiction until after 16 (in a realistic scenario, children can, and will circumvent this).

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      Yes, exactly. Let’s also ban nature documentaries along with slides, bikes, Gregg’s sausage rolls and clowns. Anything that requires an iota of parenting should be verboten from the younglings.

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      23 days ago

      A 10 year old has no business being on tiktok

      Government overreach.
      Parents should shouldn’t issue an internet capable phone to a 10 y/o. And if, restrict it to hell and heavens.