Hetzner is one of the go-to server providers for Fediverse instances, in part due to its cheap offerings while still providing high quality service. However, Hetzner has announced a price adjustment, which has increased the prices of some servers as much as 3-4 times the original. This kind of ruins the point in using Hetzner, as the main appeal was Hetzner’s cheap server prices.
Some of their servers haven’t increased an insane amount, for example, the CAX41 offering has gone from €31.49 monthly to €40.99 (30% increase). Others are much higher though; CPX41 has gone from €38.99 monthly to €120.49 (209% increase)!
To any Fediverse admins using Hetzner, how would you see this affecting your instance? Will you be migrating to a different service or sticking with Hetzner even with the price hike?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe existing servers will be grandfathered in to the old price point, so that will certainly buy some time to find a potential alternative.
I personally am using Hetzner for my Mbin instance, but the price increase doesn’t seem completely unreasonable for the specific server I am currently using. I do not see myself needing to rescale the server any time soon, so I should be able to keep the old price anyway.
Hacker news discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48540844
Hetzner price adjustment table: https://docs.hetzner.com/general/infrastructure-and-availability/price-adjustment/
There was a big price increase a month or two ago that affected existing servers. I think this is recognizing that Hetzner just can’t acquire new servers (particularly memory) at anywhere close to what they could before. RAM prices are up about 400% in the past year and rising, and I think even server chassis and CPUs are being largely soaked up by the mesoscale datacenter builds.
Net net, this sucks. And my expectation is that Hetzner will still be the cheapest game in town by about the same percentages as before. It the costs keep going up, I think we will see the fediverse starting to struggle.
Between the absolute crush of bot registrations and the spiraling costs, I have been contemplating moving to a required donation for new accounts.
Or we could talk about how wildly inefficient Lemmy is.
I’m running my server on my own hardware, so all of my sevices will be fine
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I’m so happy that I went for local hosting at home since 2008. I started with game servers.
Eventually hosting everything from git server to file storage. From todo list to my homepage. From my blog to voip server. From plantuml server to mbin. From Mastodon to my own search engine. From dashboarding to block chain explorer.
what are game servers?
Back in the days you were able to host your own game server like Cod or bf2 and many many other fps games. Like soldier of fortune and more. Allowing you to be the host, but rather than also being a player a game server is a headless server that hosts a game, so people can join the server (24/7). Often by using the public IP address.
The mear fact I need to explain what this is makes me really sad. Nothing personal to you but in general sad. Since those game servers hosted by dedicated people across the world make gaming so much more fun. More caring and more decentralized. This also means that the multiplayer gameplay can’t never die.
Today I guess there is no server executable being shared. Everything is fully in the hands of the game studio/publisher. Hence running a game server makes it possible to keep multiplayer working. This is also exactly the case. There area still Cod4, counter strike, bf2, crysis, halo 1, sof double helix and may of those old games alive. No stupid single point of control.
oh that makes sense. thanks.
Any good guides for self-hosting git?
You’re most likely not looking to selfhost plain git but more something like GitHub (Web frontend, administrative tools etc.). I use Forgejo (installation guide) for that and am quiet happy with it. Its more lightweight then e.g. GitLab.
Yes so I use gitlab here. And I use the free version (community edition). I installed it directly on my VM. So I have proxmox. And within proxmox I have an Ubuntu server vm. Within this vm I installed the whole gitlab suite. Including my own gitlab runners. Love it.
See https://docs.gitlab.com/install/package/ubuntu/
Alternatives that I also donate to is Forgejo.
Several admins had moved away from Hetzner because of some of their policies, so they impact may be smaller than expected
I’d be curious to know what those admins switched to (if you have any idea).
I don’t remember, it was a while back
You might be thinking of vultr
The prices for my servers basically increased by 30% I thought about consolidating my 3 VPSes in one big VPS for all 3 instances, but I have not gotten around to it, and I am not sure if I will actually go through with it…
i moved my mbin instance from one of the more expensive options, amazon, to hetzner coming up on almost a year ago now.
they have some used, dedicated servers that you can get diirt cheap. when they raised all the prices mine went up maybe 3%. and thats after more than halving my monthly cost by moving there in the first place. no big deal.
its clearly their cloudy hardware (scaling) used for ai nonsense that they are pushing rates up on, for those obvious reasons. they dont give a shit who pays and theres lots of stupidly deep ai pockets at the moment
Fucked me. Their explanation was super reasonable, but I’m still hosed.
They’ve hugely increased the prices for the higher priced virtual servers. Dedicated server prices have also gone up but not anywhere near as much. I’ve had a lower-end auction dedi for several years and it’s a few bucks more per month now than when I got it way before the shortages. In fact after I got it, prices of comparable servers dropped by quite a lot, though I didn’t bother migrating.
I switched from Hetzner to Netcup last year and took the yearly deal just before they increased prices as well, so I’m safe until 2026-12-09. After that, I’ll have to figure out what to switch to, if anything at all.
I think it was only newly purchased servers.
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