• TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca
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    21 days ago

    I mean I agree with you mostly but the vote was for Carney or conservatives. Voting NDP for most people would be effectively a vote for the Tories.

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      21 days ago

      Two generational NDP ridings in my area flipped Con because of Liberal voters. So, I can’t say I particularly give a shit about how this would hypothetically empower the PC Party, since our local needs will definitely be ignored in the foreseeable future anyway, maybe forever if a Lib gets elected next. The fact is that a minority government, either PC or Liberal, would have far less power at its disposal to enact these common neoliberal policies. Instead, “Elbows Up,” we have a majority Liberal parliament that is aggressively slashing environmental protections, funnelling public wealth into private corporations for "sovereignty-"based mining and fossil fuel drilling, and implementing authoritarian internet surveillance policies; of course, all without consideration of indigenous peoples or First Nations. Wow, what a difference.

      Don’t act like you’re considering the trans genocide rhetoric that PP was running on either, because it’s not like Carney has done anything to address the spread of anti-trans hatespeech or the restricted access to gender-affirming care achieved through privatization. Is it better because now it isn’t talked about at all besides by the victims?

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        21 days ago

        I love how you made this comment within minutes of someone else giving you a single downvote. You are wrong because you misunderstand how power in this system works and how people who aren’t in positions of power must navigate the politics of this system to their benefit, not because people think that FPTP isn’t a real thing or a factor in elections here.

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          21 days ago

          I’m still not wrong. For most people in Canada Voting NDP in the last election would effectively have amounted to a pro Tory vote in the majority of ridings

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                  20 days ago

                  What is it you’re expecting me to prove? We have first past the post voting with no proportional representation. That’s just a fact

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                    20 days ago

                    What an obnoxious fuckin dickhead. You’ve been talking about this shit and you’ve never so much as looked up what the results were and whether what you actually say is true?

                    I’m so fucking done with this moron, point proven.

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          21 days ago

          Absolutely there is, and I would have loved to have voted for a competent NDP candidate in my riding if they had any prayer of winning either my riding or doing anything meaningful at all on a federal level.

          I’m still not wrong though.

          You wishing the NDP could have run and won in any significant numbers and without risking a PP victory doesn’t make it so, and people voting NDP just because they like NDP policy wouldn’t have changed that