Yeah I’m pretty sure this is why https://vger.to/lemmy.today/post/55397665
Sorry to be like this, but what is this link?
I get redircted outside of my Lemmy App (because it is a 3rd party URL) and then get advertised a Lemmy client, which I don’t even like, only for its page to only show a preview and in order to actually view the linked post I have to open the original WebUI of the Lemmy instance linked on the advertising page of voyager?
And it got the balls to tell me that its the best experience?
What the fuck Voyager??
seems to be an issue on your end:
also on voyager and it’s working as expected!
click link > opens post within voyager
maybe a settings issue or a bug?
Voyager made this website and probably added these URLs as supported links.
I am not on voyager, but on thunder and it does not work, since there links are not the standard share link. I tested using normal links in a comment and it works there.
So while in theory Thunder could add support for these Links, I really just whished that Voyager would stop advertising themselves whenever somebody shares a link with their client.
The actions of Voyager seem malicious; no other Lemmy (or mastodon client) that I know of does not directly link to the post in question and rather just advertises itself like an adfly page.
oh, sry, i read that wrong!
yes, that’s a voyager link, although that should probably open in the browser version by default, since voyager, afaik, does have a web version…
fyi: it’s not malice, there’s actually a good reason for generating these links!
it’s so different instances can be shared through the same home instance, i.e.: so i can share a link from feddit.org with someone on lemmy.world, and they can still access it within the same client, through their own home instance without requiring a new login, etc.
it’s a limitation of lemmy and voyager offers a workaround ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That makes way more sense. I would question it, since my client (Thunder) manages the same without requiring to rewrite the URL.
no idea if there’s a better way, that’s just how i remember the reasoning…guess there’s probably ways!
I find it frustrating that the same author wrote both of these articles, published one day apart, but made no connections between them.
Edit: I couldn’t read earlier…
I had thought the same thing. I can only assume the site is farming for clicks.
What do you mean? The second sentence mentions their previous article
I have no excuses! Thank you for pointing this out. Not sure what my issue was earlier.
Oversized designs is definitely a big one, but don’t forget subpar training and verification of said training (take a driving test once and your set for life) and of course just overall poor design.
I’ve got a Lincoln mkx and it can be almost impossible to even see out of the windshield on sunny days due to the angle of the windshield catching massive reflections of the dash (like how the hell did that make it past testing)
Vw tiguan rear view mirror goes lower than my shoulders, blockng half the front view.
Maybe, but it’s probably a lot more to do with infrastructure. European drivers are used to pedestrians being everywhere, North American’s aren’t.
It would be interesting to see a comparison between cities and rural locations.
Ok so the thing is, when you get hit by small car you usually tend to roll over the top w some injuries. You can’t really do that when its a giant truck/SUV the height of you and you end up rolling under their BIGASS SUSPENDED VEHICLE
fun fact there’s a standard bumper height that all cars have to respect exactly for this reason, AND such that cars always collide bumper to bumper, not bumper to hood, or bumper to windshield
GUESS WHAT FUCKING VEHICLE CLASS IS EXEMPT FROM THAT FUCKING GUESS
also guess what EVEN FUCKING SEMITRUCKS ARENT EXEMPT FROM THAT IN EUROPE. SEMI TRUCKS HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN HEIGHT ON THEIR BUMPER TO MATCH CARS, WHILE AMERICAN SUV’S DON’T
I’m sorry but this is fucking infuriating to me. I gotta log off now bye
Tl;dr
USA:
- Terrible drivers
- Big ass trucks
- Minor punishments
- No sidewalks
- Texting while driving
Europe:
- Reasonably decent drivers
- Moderately big vehicles
- More or less severe punishments (still too low)
- Sidewalks everywhere
- Texting while driving
Road design also matters. European roads with heavy pedestrian traffic are often too narrow for speeding or have obstacles. American roads often look like a high way and only the signaling may suggest otherwise.
This is a big reason. I don’t even feel safe checking my phone when it’s in a holder, which is legally allowed where I live in Europe.
○ Mossad v. Hezbollah.
Big Trucks and SUVs are much deadlier than proper cars in case of accidents. Pedestrian infrastructure does not exist in most parts of the US or is very dangerous to use and those parts of the US that do are often unaffordable for regular people to live in. People also do not expect pedestrians even if there is infrastructure of that kind. Roads in the US are designed to maximise the danger to pedestrians even if there is pedestrian infrastructure because of car first regulations …
Doesn’t mention anything about infrastructure and I’d guess that has a lot to do with it in the US. Very, very few cities are setup with any type of pedestrian traffic or public transport in mind.
True. I remember visiting El Paso a decade ago.
There was a starbucks in viewing distance from the hotel but the only way to get there was by car. The fact that taking a short walk to get my morning coffee was not possible seemed absurd.
And this kept happening. Walking anywhere was just not a thing there.
There are very harsh fines for driving with a phone elsewhere. And smaller vehicles and better infra for pedestrians.
From what I’m seeing here in Europe, the fines for driving with a phone are seldom applied and outside a handful of countries aren’t even that large.
Also infrastructure for pedestrians hasn’t actually improved significativelly in Europe since 2009 - the big difference in the quality of pedestrian infrastructure between Europe and the US comes all the way back from the 60s or even earlier, so it doens’t explain a change of trend on the US but not Europe in 2009.
I’m leaning more towards the “oversized light trucks are dangerous as fuck” theory since, well, they are and the trend to see more of those on the road hasn’t happened in Europe but it has in the US.
Regarding pedestrian infrastructure. That is just outright false, at least for Austria. Pedestrian infrastructure in big cities has improved substantially and even in rural regions many communities have made improvements. Many of these projects happened also after 2009.
That said, the rise of oversized trucks is likely the bigger factor here. When I was visiting the US in 2010, it was not half as bad as it appears to be now.
I’ve lived in Britain, Germany and Portugal during the period since 2009 and saw no big improvements in pedestrian infrastructure beyond a few streets being closed to traffic and turned fully pedestrianised.
The biggest change I saw was improved infrastructure for cycling, rather than for pedestrians.
Paris and Vienna certainly had a lot going on in this regard since 2009. (Brussels too) I am not talking about the odd pedestrianisation.
A lot of streets have been redesigned, that has often benefitted both, pedestrians and cyclists and added more greenery and trees.
Since the article clearly states that even Canada—where we drive the same vehicles and have some similar infrastructure issues—isn’t showing the same uptick, the most likely reasons are legal/regulatory or cultural rather than physical. In other words, there’s more going on here than just oversized SUVs with bad collision outcomes for pedestrians (although they certainly don’t help).
In Canada our distracted driving laws are pretty harsh and they do actually enforce them. Insurance is also mandatory and a distracted driving ticket is very expensive for a couple of years.
Where are people getting the idea that insurance isn’t mandatory in the US?
I thought big trucks and SUVs were doing it - at least that’s what a different headline said.
In Australia, it’s illegal to use a phone while driving. (Although police aren’t hesitant to hand out fines and penalties, people do still use their phones while driving). There is also a cultural recognition and discouragement towards phone use while driving which is slowly changing accepted behaviour, similar to the slow change away from tolerating and encouraging drunk driving over the past few decades.
People DO get killed because of phone usage in other countries. It is a huge issue. There’s now even special cameras here for fining people that call. Unfortunately many people text and drive. I constantly see people look down their laps while driving.
What in the holy AI slop is that?
I actually took the time to read it. Just to check it out. Wow! It’s kinda hilarious how bad it is. It hits right about every AI stereotype. It even references some redditor 😂
This is pure, lazy bait slop
Do the phones have guns…?
From personal experience, I have had to dodge people outright walking into traffic to cross a road, ignoring all the cars and staring at their phones. This has s happened serval times in the last year for me. The worst offender was someone walking across a 10-lane highway (5 lanes each side with a grass divider) during rush hour traffic.
You should be higher on the list. It’s a complex problem with a lot of moving parts - while the emotional support truck designs certainly have a fault in accidents due to physics and blind spots, people not paying attention and crossing the road with the assumption traffic will stop for them, or the lack of awareness of traffic when crossing, has taken many lives as well.
We should control what we can - limit crossings to safer zones (crosswalks, dedicated traffic light crosswalks, crossing bridges, tunnels or underpass), require visibility rules for vehicle safety (reverse cameras, blind spot detectors, automatic emergency braking is what we have, we need driver visibility requirements better defined), separate vehicle and pedestrian traffic physically (barriers, natural and/or artificial), and teach driving and walking lessons to kids in school so they learn how to do these things, instead of letting the school of hard knocks teach them.
Same. Daily. WTAF is so important you have to stare at your phone in a crosswalk?
don’t pedestrians have right of way on crosswalks??
Yes, but I guess your family can argue that you had the right of way when a giant truck turns you into a hood ornament because you were watching Facebook shorts instead of looking both ways before crossing a street
I guess it’s a different situation in Germany compares to the US
How? Please elaborate
Here you can pretty much cross the street on a crosswalk without looking because people are more careful.
According to the laws of man, yes.
According to the laws of physics? Nope.
In my cases, there was no crosswalk. Straight up reckless jaywalking.
Phones are an addiction. Every moment of your attention is demanded by social media.
Because android is more popular in Europe?
Can’t remember what podcast they discussed this on, but prevalence of stick shift in Europe was one of the theorized factors.
Automatic transmission has been standard for sports cars and luxury sedans for many years though. Not to mention the ever increasing number of electric cars.
And smart brake assist has also been included in most option packages for several years now.
