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umami_wasabi@lemmy.ml to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago

Google admits Spotify pays no Play Store fees because of a secret deal | TechCrunch

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Google during a testimony in the Epic vs Google trial said that a deal with Spotify allows the audio company to completely bypass Play Store fees.
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    What alternatives do you guys use besides Bandcamp? I am open to paying a sub as long as the artist is getting a decent cut.

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      Pirate and buy official merch, they make more of that anyway. Also live shows

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        LiveNation has fixed the issue that artists got paid for playing live, not the companies can take that cut as well.

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          Are you sure “fixed” is the correct word?

          https://www.economicliberties.us/press-release/live-nation-ticketmasters-promises-are-no-substitute-for-break-up/

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      buy the cd and rip them into your phone

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        Just because you liked that in 2000 doesn’t mean that two decades later, it’s still ideal.

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          It’s pretty much one of the only ways to make sure the artist gets a half decent cut though.

          Unless you want to use bandcamp, which is much easier.

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            much easier

            For now, didn’t they just get bought out by another entity?

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              Bought out by EPIC, sadly… we’ll see where things go…

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                Not anymore, EPIC sold it to Songtradr

                https://blog.bandcamp.com/2023/11/22/songtradr-acquires-bandcamp/

                https://www.songtradr.com/blog/posts/songtradr-bandcamp-acquisition

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                  I hate epic, but I also can’t tell if this is good or bad… my statement stands: we’ll see.

                  • Emerald (she/her)@lemmy.world
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                    Well songtradr did essentially fire a lot of staff.

                    https://www.vulture.com/article/epic-games-bandcamp-sale-layoffs.html

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                Yrp. These fucking companies need to stay in thier lanes.

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              Uh oh

              Well I guess at least for dubstep there’s 140plates.com

              Edit: nevermind… Damn it

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                😭

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          the first CD i ripped was like 2 years ago

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          Not ideal but artists get paid proper. Just don’t share then you’re mostly fine.

          P.S.: Subject to your local law which may prohibits ripping a CD. This is NOT a legal advise.

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      Buying the music and selfhosting a streaming server is an option, though obviously not for everyone

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        It’s actually really easy if you just invest in a Synology NAS. You can install the music server package with a few clicks and copy music to the folder, then open a port on your firewall and the Synology music app streams it. Pretty nifty

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          Doesn’t even need to be Synology. Plenty of solutions that can be installed on your own “open” hardware (old PC, mini PC or just a more powerful server)

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            For sure. The Synology is just dead simple because it already has the package to install and there’s a mobile app it pairs with.

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        As a Spotify user, I’m not really ok with how much they pay artists… But I don’t use Spotify for “streaming” even though I stream a lot from them, I use it to discover new music, find obscure bands, their algorithm is amazing at that.

        I could easily selfhost as you suggested, but then it would be my own music bubble.

        I go to concerts and buy merchandise as much as possible when I want to support an artist.

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      Tidal seems nice

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        Can confirm. Tidal has “lossless” audio, but app is horrendous, albeit better than Spotify’s.

        Also tech support is absolutely useless, still would prefer over Spotify every time.

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          Honestly love its Daily Recommendations

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      Apple Music pays more than Spotify. It’s probably still not “decent”, but it’s more.

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      7digital has a reasonable selection, but it’s not all available lossless, which would be almost incomprehensible in 2023 if it wasn’t for the fact that we’re talking about the music industry.

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        Im not really sure what cut 7digital gives to artists either

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      NetEase Music. It’s a spotify clone from China, and the VIP version costs like $1.20 a month.

      It doesn’t spy on your phone and requires zero permissions (I’ve tested this extensively), but you will need a VPN set to China, Hong Kong or Taiwan for it to work (assuming you don’t live in either place).

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        China and doesn’t spy on your phone, I’ll take things that don’t go together for 200 Alex

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          I’m in China and work as head of IT security for a European company. As such I monitor my phone religiously for any transgressions. Netease Music works with zero permissions (unless you want to use the downloader) and doesn’t try to exfiltrate any data whatsoever.

          Install PCAPdroid and see for yourself, you can monitor all traffic on system level on a per app basis.

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