• MudMan@kbin.social
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    It’s honestly kind of irrational. The “embrace, extend, extinguish” stuff is on shaky grounds as a framework as it is, but it wasn’t even part of the conversation until people started trying to retroactively justify the knee-jerk rejection to Meta.

    So it’s mostly “we should grow the “fediverse” into the new universal social tool. No, not like that”.

    But hey, here we are. I’m on the record saying that I’ll mvoe instances if they join to keep them available.

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      9 months ago

      Isn’t the entire point of these platforms and the nature of federation is that they get to decide who they federate with and when, and even why?

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        Sure. And that the users get to pick their instance based on those decisions.

        Which is what I’m saying I’ll do.

        Problem with that train of thought is you always land in weird anarchocapitalist loopholes. Ultimately there is a level of communal decisionmaking that ends up happening and needs some degree of organization, even if the alternatives are also supported on the fringes.

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          I’m not telling you not to pick your instance, but I was countering your claim that what they are doing is irrational. Because if it’s irrational, then the very point of these services is irrational.

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        With thinking Facebook sucks? Nothing.

        With thinking Facebook sucks and Facebook’s audience should stay in Facebook while the “fediverse” stays small and exclusive? That it goes against the stated goals of providing decentralized, open social platforms as a replacement for current closed platforms.

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                    Yeah I know plenty of instances limit them making follows approval only. I also saw this line on a person’s profile: “if you follow me from mastodon.social I won’t approve your requests, migrate to a different instance”.

                    I think the main reason is because mastodon.social has a lot of spam (or has had it in the past) though I’m sure that the threads issue and the fact that they want to federate and encourage federation with threads probably isn’t going to help.