• Lee Duna@lemmy.nz
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    11 months ago

    I’m not trying to blame him, but more than 200 TB of data on cloud storage? Holy cow, I wouldn’t even trust it to store more than 5 GB of data.

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      Yeah, I used to love Google products, then they started killing things, and more things, and more quickly. And yeah, I’m done. Desperately hoping something other than android and IOS gets mainstream acceptance, because sure it’s here now, but there’s no guarantee they won’t just kill it 5 years from now for some wild reason.

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    11 months ago

    Jesus. Even downloading at 1 Gbps, it would take a few weeks to download all that data. I don’t think Google’s Transfer Appliance works for retrieving data.

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    Considering that even with one of the cheapest storage services, B2, 250ishTB is about $1500/month(that’s more than $5500/m in S3!) whereas Gsuite seems to be about less than $200, I would’ve never guessed that I could use it as is for a long time.

    Extremely shitty of google to do this though. What a shame.

  • Laitinlok@lemmy.laitinlok.com
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    11 months ago

    https://www.techdirt.com/2023/10/10/journalists-ask-doj-to-stop-treating-url-alterations-as-a-federal-crime/

    Idk what you mean by unauthorised access to the video if you gain access to the password of the database or simply it wasn’t password protected at all. Simply scrapping the site and reading html files or using the tools from the browser to scan the network connections to find the original footage is not hacking.

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      11 months ago

      People have served time in prison for simple URL incrementing on public websites.

  • wahming@monyet.cc
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    On one hand, Google sucks. On the other, users like this are why we can’t have nice things.

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        11 months ago

        Why not? We live in a society. Fair use and tragedy of the commons are not unknown concepts to us.

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          11 months ago

          So what exactly is your justification for blaming someone for using a service as advertised?

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              According to the concept, should a number of people enjoy unfettered access to a finite, valuable resource such as a pasture, they will tend to over-use it

              Emphasis on bold. Seems like they shouldn’t have advertised it as unlimited and should’ve provided a finite cap.

              The line shouldn’t be drawn at “wherever I arbitrarily decide due to tragedy of the commons”. If you say it’s unlimited, honor it, or at least let folks graciously exit the platform.

              I wonder if the terms and conditions had such a limit tucked away.

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                at least let folks graciously exit the platform.

                Are you aware the plan was sunsetted two years ago? How much time do you need to graciously exit?

                As for finite, due to the laws of physics there’s obviously a limit. If I try backing up the entire Internet it’s obviously not gonna happen.

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                  Are you aware the plan was sunsetted two years ago? How much time do you need to graciously exit?

                  Based on the article, it seems like folks were just told that their data would be put into read only. How much notice was given for data deletion?

                  As for finite, due to the laws of physics there’s obviously a limit. If I try backing up the entire Internet it’s obviously not gonna happen.

                  How’s a consumer supposed to know the limit if you advertise unlimited? Sounds like an explicit cap should’ve been written into the fine print. Why are you supporting “unlimited, but I will cut you off whenever I feel like it” versus, for example, what cellular plans typically advertise: “unlimited, but you get deprioritized after x gigs”

                  The former just seems to be not consumer friendly.

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          Unlimited does not mean “there’s a limit but we won’t tell you what it is until you reach it”. Corporations need to stop using it that way.

          It’s really not hard to avoid false advertising. Just tell people what you’re actually prepared to offer. Figure it out before selling it.

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            To be fair, I would agree it was false advertising if Google was terminating accounts of large users. However, they ended the entire plan / service, with significant notice, so it’s less ‘false advertising’ and more ‘we can’t afford to do this, because jackasses’.

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              They put users of the entire plan in read only mode with, as far as I can tell, no deadline in sight. When a deadline was finally enforced, it was within a week, which is not significant notice at all for data deletion.

              Being told “your data will be read only” and then, without notice, being given a deadline to extricate your data that is physically impossible for most users is not much different from having your account deleted. Both will inevitably have the same outcome.

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                I’m not sure if you’re aware that the unlimited plan was sunsetted two years ago. Two years notice seems like plenty of time to have set up a new backup system. That said, my main and original point is just that this whole incident is a classic example of a tragedy of the commons.

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    I’m surprised they even allowed that much to be uploaded. Even if it is “unlimited”, that must be against some sort of fair usage agreement.

    If you need to archive over 250TB of data, you should get a tape drive.

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      11 months ago

      Come on, if it’s unlimited it’s unlimited, not “unlimited but only if you use less than limit”

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    Goddamn hope this story gets somebody at google’s attention. Off topic, even though it was mentioned in the article, what ended up happening to the dad’s account, was it reinstated? I can’t find an update

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    I have a problem with Amazon Drive going away for non-photos on December 31st.

    For a while, they had unlimited storage and you could use a Linux API to access it – I stored 8TB of data.

    Then they set a quota, but for those over quota it was read-only. Oh, and Linux access no longer works.

    Now they’ve set a deadline to have everything off by December 31st, but the Windows app still doesn’t work (constantly crashing) and I see no way to get my files.

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    No way in hell I’d trust just one backup method for my data.

    A 6 TB drive is less than $100 on Amazon and two cloud backups is like $30 extra a year.