(The “Windows” slices of the pies are entirely made up by Baldur’s Gate 3, which also runs well over Linux)

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    Is this Lemmy’s version of Reddit’s “pc vs console” I’ve been seeing this a lot lately. Why are you all so obsessed with who plays on what and what their opinions are?

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      Because more people playing on Linux means more games get published for Linux, which is an outcome we want.

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        Gonna have to get in line behind consoles first. PC gamers have been around for years, still at the bottom of the list when games get published. So…what’s the point in saying “play on Linux because games also work here” when publishers don’t care?

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          PC gamers have been around for years, still at the bottom of the list when games get published.

          That’s because console manufacturers and game publishers team up to fuck consumers.

          More gamers on Linux would force their hands.

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            Well, at least get partity with Windows. It’s unlikely to get Rockstar to launch on PC first, but it might mean more MP games work well on Linux.

            All I want is for enough people to use Linux so devs care enough to remove roadblocks for Linux, such as anti-cheat. I don’t expect Linux to overtake Windows or anything, I just want my selection to not be limited just because I’m running Linux.

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          9 months ago

          I decline the premise of the question. No one in the thread leading to your comment said anything remotely similar to “play on Linux because games also work here”.

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          9 months ago

          More like play on Linux because windows gets more bugs,bloat, and built in spying every version and if I had the kind of money to afford the whole collection of apple products you inevitably end up with when chosing that path, I would have had kids instead and not been dumped by my ex for being born into a poor family and failing to gain anything from working other than worse health and not even breaking even financially. Linux is free too. Free is my favourite price.

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      9 months ago

      I just want more games to work on Linux, and more marketshare gets devs interested. I don’t care what specific people use, just that enough use Linux to grow marketshare.

      Use what you want, but I’ll encourage anyone who is interested to give it a try.

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      9 months ago

      It’s like when you discuss music with a metalhead, it’s not that you just don’t feel anything when you listen to metal, and you don’t consider complex polyrhythms to just be objectively “better” because they’re harder to play. It’s that your music sucks ass and if it’s not the right kind of metal it also sucks ass.

      Linux can play most games, but if you like playing games that Linux doesn’t play then those games suck and you shouldn’t want to play them. That’s their perspective.

      Why do you want to play Fortnite or CoD warzone? Don’t you know kernel level anticheat is a rOoTkiT?!? (As if they could even define such a thing without resorting to just pointing at shit they don’t like and twisting the definition like a Baptist preacher trying to create theology.)

      You can’t win with these types of people, Linux can play games! And if it can’t it’s YOUR FAULT FOR NOT EXCLUSIVELY PLAYING GAMES THAT LINUX CAN PLAY.

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        Nah, you’re getting too deep into your own feelings. Most threads I’ve seen where people start talking about Linux as a viable gaming option, it’s because some commenter or the OP mentions a problem they’re facing in Windows, which is directly solved or mitigated in Linux. Also, most of the time when people recommend Linux, it comes with warnings like “it has a learning curve” and “not everything works”. The hard line Linux-or-bust types are definitely not the majority.

        Also, the very nature of Lemmy means the userbase probably skews towards more techy types who have been using Linux in their professional lives for years and have naturally come to harbor positive feelings for it. That drives the recommendation as well as anything else.

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          Whatever you say, I’ve literally had people ask me “why do you play insert game here?” When I tell them why I haven’t completely gotten off windows. It’s happened multiple times. I’m not getting in my feelings, some of you guys are just insufferable.

          I love Fedora on my old gaming laptop and arch/SteamOS kicks ass on deck, but I’m not giving up my main game that I play for socializing with my friends just because the FOSS community assigns themselves moral superiority for not being on Windows.

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      9 months ago

      And racing sims. I was talking to someone on Bluesky and they said the lack of racing sim gear support is holding them back.

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          Yup. I guess the gist of it is, Linux is great for just general gaming, but if you’ve got something specific, it’s just not there yet. (I see a bit about VR too)

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            9 months ago

            I just make do with running both. Of course would prefer to have everything on Linux, though.

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        9 months ago

        +1 on sims, with so many different peripherals as well as third party software like simhub, even if a base game works on Linux, it effectively doesn’t since there is so much integration needed

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      Yeah, I’d love to get a VR headset, but there just aren’t even games to play on Linux, and the headsets with good Linux support are either expensive or hard to find.

      Hopefully that improves, I imagine it’s stopping people from switching to Linux.

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        Even the Index, Valve’s own headset has had broken functionality for years with no fixes in sight. Valve refuses to fix big stuff like the cameras, base stations not turning on, or even automatic audio switching.

        Not to mention steamvr reprojection is completely broken.

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        I’d really love a wireless VR headset that is just a display with inside out tracking and streams from your PC.

        There’s really no reason to have built-in computation unless it’s a standalone device and it just leads to a bulky and heavy device that still has a short battery life.

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        Yeah, I just keep a windows partition for VR. In all of my experience with VR on Linux, it has been terrible and buggy which is just intolerable. I gotta be honest, its not smooth sailing on windows either, steam vr has some bugs they haven’t fixed for years, so combining that with Linux just is not good.

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        9 months ago

        For me, I have been dual booting, but I have also had my linux set up for a few months now and was using it exclusively until i got my quest 3.

        I can definitely see the allure of just sticking to windows if one plays pcvr exclusively or if one just hasn’t taken the plunge into linux yet.

        I really do hope that support comes. Either officially or unofficially by a linux savant who knows this stuff.

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          Yup. One by one the papercuts are getting resolved, so hopefully it’s just a matter of time before VR support gets better. Ideally Valve gets interested again and makes another push for Linux VR (maybe some tie-in with the Deck?), otherwise we may be waiting a while.

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      I think it’s interesting most of your play time is on the Steam Deck, but you play a bunch of games on Linux. Are you just testing settings then?

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        I think it’s a lot of the same game on both, but some I only played on the deck. Some I switched back to desktop for sections where inconsistent frame rate was wrecking me like GoW Valkyries. Dave the diver was entirely deck. Also have a laptop but vulkan support is incomplete on haswell so some games were launched and crashed if they didn’t have opengl.

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    Just Linux for me…I haven’t used windows since windows 7. I’m probably going to sell my steam deck though because it mostly just sits in the case on top of my computer (where I usually play since my computer is plugged into my 50 inch bedroom TV. But the stream deck is nice and fun to play with.

    1000000055

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      I’m the opposite, my computer is in the basement and my Steam Deck is next to my bed, so ~75% of my playtime is on the Deck.

      It’s a cool device, but it’s not for everyone.

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    Damn, mine also has a Windows slice this year because one of the games I was playing with my wife didn’t run well enough on the Deck so we played it on her desktop. It runs on Linux, it’s just that it was a bit on the heavy side for the deck so the fps were bad and her desktop was already plugged to the TV

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    I’m at 50 / 50. Went 100% Linux 6 months ago and never looked back. Didn’t even bother with dual booting, it’s all in or nothing.

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      It’s from Steam’s 2023 Year in Review. It shows up at the top of the store page when you open their app.

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        Mine doesn’t show any pie charts, where do you find it? Does it only show if you played on more than one platform?

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      Steam has a year in review thing, just log into the steam store and you should see it.

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    This past weekend I installed Ubuntu on an old Dell laptop and Mint on an old Toshiba. I just want to be able to play Open RA with some friends.

    It runs on Ubuntu, but not on Mint. I don’t have the specs of either laptop handy, but is this a software or hardware issue?

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      Most likely a missing package or something, so software. If also depends on which version of Mint you got (Ubuntu or Debian based).

      Make a post here when you get time. If you can get a crash dump (e.g. run it on the terminal and copy the output), that’ll help a ton in figuring out what went wrong.

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        Aw! Well, right before I read this I started installing Ubuntu on the Mint machine.

        I have a third laptop I want to do this with, but I have to find a charger. I’ll try Mint again when I get to that.

        I’m just trying to set up my buddies with OpenRA so we can have LAN parties like it’s 1999

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            Thanks! Yeah I like it. I’m just dipping my toes in Linux for now, hence using old machines that I’m willing to wipe and start over with

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      Not the OP but I have a similar graphics on steam. Using X11 with KDE I was using a GTX 1660 super until november last year, this year I’m using a 6700xt both worked perfectly without any tinkering. KDE Wayland tho has a lot of issues with Nvidia (devs say that is the opposite, the Nvidia driver is shit). But apparently gnome implemented workarounds for Nvidia and their Wayland support is better.

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      Radeon RX 580, or rather two of them: a “default” one, then one I use when running vfio-powered virtual machines or miscellaneous Vulkan projects I play with occasionally.

      It doesn’t have all the newest features, but I run most games just fine.

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    I’m waiting for the open razer project to support my mouse before I fully switch. I’d do it myself but I don’t have the time these days.