• Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    11 months ago

    For those that don’t want to read the article:

    Tesla is going with buttons on the steering wheel instead of a stick to the left of the wheel

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      In Norway, you have to indicate your exit in a roundabout by activating your turn signal, and he found it difficult while turning the steering wheel, which you have to do in a roundabout. A driving student would fail their test if they don’t activate their turn signal in a roundabout in Norway.

      He said:

      I tested the Model 3, and noticed that I lost both focus and direction in roundabouts. It’s not directly life-threatening, but you run the risk of both driving on curbs and other cars if there are two lanes.

      After posting his findings in a group for driving schools, he was met with agreement by many other instructors who said that they experienced the same issue and the risk is much higher with students.

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        It’s like car features that have been around for 70+ years are the way they are for a reason.

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          11 months ago

          It should be painfully obvious by now that Elon Must is one of those “I know best” Pigheaded Ignorants.

          He always “knows best” so almost a century of auto engineering verified by trillions of hours of actual field use are meaningless next to his “superior” ideas (which whilst looking like UI design are painfully devoid of actual UI/UX expertise).

          It’s the same reason why when he started Tesla he tried to fully automate car manufacturing whilst having zero experience in auto manufacturing and it blew up badly and all his early factories had to be retooled and hire actual auto-workers.

          No wander he turned out to be a rightwing-nutter: In my experience “I know best” Pigheaded Ignorants is one of the most common personality profiles in that tribe.

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          11 months ago

          Reminds me of the guy that built that sub that got crushed. There are standards in place for good reasons and ignoring them is a bad idea.

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            Yup, and just like the sub Tesla did multiple things that were substandard because they worked in controlled environments and even worked ok the real world for a short time before failing.

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        People who actually know how to signal in a roundabout are a rare breed. Dunno how it’s in other countries but the German rules actually make sense: Don’t signal when entering. There’s exactly one way to go, so why would you. Don’t signal when driving around the roundabout as that’s straight ahead (even if it’s a circle). Do signal before the exit you want to take, this is for the benefit of people waiting to enter (or maybe those behind but only on 2-lane roundabouts). As a corollary: If you signal while you enter you’re pining straight for the first exit… but honestly avoid it too many people signal wrong so it’s better to not play fast+loose.

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          in the Netherlands people often do signal left while on the roundabout but that feels mostly because of cyclists who also do so.

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          That’s not the way I learned in France, where they make you signal left before entering and use the inner lane, only if you’re going further than halfway through the roundabout.

          You signal right before entering only if you’re taking the first exit.

          In any case you signal right after driving past the last exit before your own.

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      11 months ago

      Wtf, seriously? I’ve tried using media buttons on the steering wheel during a turn. It’s not reliable in the slightest, because it’s a moving target.

      Does the non circular steering non-wheel never go past 90 degrees or something?

      • FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        I once accidentally dialed 911 from my steering wheel phone buttons while pulling a turn. Surprised the shit out of me and the dispatcher didn’t sound like this was the first call of the type. This is a fucking terrible idea.

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          Covered in the article. In Norway you are required to signal when exiting a roundabout. It’s a fair concern.

    • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      Tesla is going with buttons on the steering wheel instead of a stick to the left of the wheel

      Its even worse than that. The buttons are smooth surface (like a touch screen) with haptic feedback. These are truly a horrible idea:

      If I had one of these Tesla cars I’d look into retrofitting the stalks back in.