In a series of posts on X Monday night, Musk said that he would not want to grow Tesla to become a leader in artificial intelligence and robotics without a compensation plan that would give him ownership of around 25% of the company’s stock. That would be about double the roughly 13% stake he currently owns.

Just casually asking for a roughly 80 Billion dollar pay raise. But at this point would Tesla be better off without him?

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    10 months ago

    He brings ZERO value to tesla after all his FSD lies and others were exposed.

    Sure people still fall for tesla crap, but he himself is useless now.

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      10 months ago

      If they could get someone boring like Tim Apple Cook, that just runs the company very well and profitably… Tesla would be sitting pretty good with their dominant place in the Electric market. The only reason most people dont pick tesla for an EV is literally Elon.

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        10 months ago

        Unfortunately, idiot Elon gets his grubby fingers ALL OVER every last piece of tech in the Tesla. It’s ALL shoddily engineered because of him. Like simple, time tested engineering concepts like redundancy? Elon would fire you. He eliminated redundancy in their FSD, choosing to rely solely on computer vision and machine learning. He literally had a good design for the sensor modules and got rid of it. Tim Cook doesn’t sabotage Apple’s engineering team like that.

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          10 months ago

          The lidar removal really pissed me off. At best, a Tesla can “see” as well as the human driver. It seems to me that half of the point of using a computer to drive a vehicle should be that it can easily access sensors that us meat bags don’t have access to.

          Plus the stupid central instrument cluster in Model 3s and Model Ys is beyond idiotic.

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        The problem with Tesla is the problem Apple had for many years: Your CEO is the reason for the stock price. Apple had a plan for succession that saved them in the end, and they’ve never been better. Tesla has nothing. They are basically a carbon credit company run by a sycophant, and without Elon, they are nothing but a carbon credit company. If he departs, the stock price will crater/adjust.

        Last time we had a CEO get fired because they were bad was the OpenAI fiasco and that proved that we no longer live in reality, because Sam was back in a week.

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          10 months ago

          Sam was fired because the board stated he withheld information and misinformed them, not because he was a bad CEO

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        10 months ago

        Not the only reason… I’m happy with my model 3, but it’s not for everyone based on objective properties.

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      10 months ago

      Much like the PT cruiser, there’s a due hard group of people in love with cyber truck, he made that happen.

      Personally I think it looks stupid as hell, but since people are very into it.

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        10 months ago

        He created a massive failure with a cult following? Because that’s what the PT cruiser was. The difference with the cybertruck being that it won’t sell to rental companies on account of the price.

        “It was a novelty car, and like all novelty items the enthusiasm faded,” says Keenan Mayo, associate editor at Bloomberg Businessweek, who wrote an obituary of sorts for the Cruiser. “The only people who were really buying it for much of the last decade were the rental car companies because it was cheap.”

        https://www.marketplace.org/2013/03/04/goodbye-pt-cruiser-will-anyone-miss-it/

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          The PT Cruiser was more or less a Dodge Neon with a funny looking body shell on top, meaning engineering cost to bring it to market was pretty minimal.

          The Cybertruck is… pretty much the opposite of that. Tesla has spent literally years trying to get the thing to market meaning it’s failure will be far more painful than PT Cruiser sales tapering off was for Chrysler.

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        I’m literally not buying a Tesla because he’s a douchbag.

        When I see a Tesla on the road I assume they are a Musk fan boy. There’s no prestige in that brand. There are a lot of us that assume that.

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          10 months ago

          I would be more likely to buy a Tesla if Musk was gone. He is poisonous to the brand.

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            10 months ago

            I would be more likely to buy a Tesla if the cars weren’t engineered like garbage.

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            10 months ago

            Tesla cars also have notoriously poor build quality, especially for the price; if you must buy an electric car, at this point, as far as I can tell, Hyundai cars are much better built. (Of course, we do need to remember that electric cars do not solve the problem of car dependency.)

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          10 months ago

          I bought my Tesla 4 years ago before EM went full douche mode. I actually quite like the car but would not buy one these days on account of him.