Taylor Swift is living every woman’s AI porn nightmare — Deepfake nudes of the pop star are appearing all over social media. We all saw this coming.::Deepfake nudes of the pop star are appearing all over social media. We all saw this coming.

  • EatATaco@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    God what a garbage article:

    On X—which used to be called Twitter before it was bought by billionaire edgelord Elon Musk

    I mean, really? The guy makes my skin crawl, but what a hypocritically edgy comment to put into an article.

    And then zero comment from Taylor Swift in it at all. She is basically just speaking for her. Not only that, but she anoints herself spokesperson for all women…while also pretty conspicuously ignoring that men can be victims of this too.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending non consensual ai porn in the least, and I assume the author and I are mostly in agreement about the need for something to be done about it.

    But it’s trashy politically charged and biased articles like this that make people take sides on things like this. Imo, the author is contributing to the problems of society she probably wants to fix.

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      9 months ago

      On the contrary, I find it more ridiculous when news media pretends like nothing is wrong over at Twitter HQ. I wish more journalists would call Musk out like this every time they’re forced to mention Twitter.

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        9 months ago

        Can you really see nothing other than “pretending nothing is wrong” and “calling musk an edge lord?”

        I see the media calling out the faults regularly regularly without needing to act like …well, an edge lord.

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          9 months ago

          Professionalism was thrown out the window the moment orange man became president. The Republicans play dirty, so everyone else has to as well, or else they’ll walk all over us. Taking the high ground is a dead concept.

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            9 months ago

            I strongly disagree, but this is completely unrelated to what I said.

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      9 months ago

      I disagree. To pretend nothing is wrong is worse. The author was accurate in their description here.

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        9 months ago

        This is the second poster here who can’t seem to understand that there is a whole world of things between “pretending nothing is wrong” and acting like a child by calling people “edge lord.”

        Last time I checked, on my front page, there was an article from the NY times about how x is spreading misinformation and musk seems to be part of it. yet they managed to point out this problem without using the term edge lord. Is this shocking to you?

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      9 months ago

      hypocritically edgy comment to put into an article.

      Its vice, their whole brand is edgy. Calling Elon an edgelord is very on brand for them.

      pretty conspicuously ignoring that men can be victims of this too.

      Sure, but women are disproportionately affected by this. You’re making the “all lives matter” argument of AI porn

      make people take sides on things like this

      People should be taking sides on this.

      Just seems like you wanna get mad for no reason? I read the article, and it doesn’t come across nearly as bad as you would lead anyone to believe. This article is about deepfake pornography as a whole, and how is can (and more importantly HAS) affected women, including minors. Sure it would have been nice to have a comment from Taylor, but i really don’t think it was necessary.

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        9 months ago

        Its vice, their whole brand is edgy. Calling Elon an edgelord is very on brand for them.

        I’ve come across this source before and don’t recall being so turned off by the tone. If this is on brand for them, then my criticism is not limited to the author.

        Sure, but women are disproportionately affected by this. You’re making the “all lives matter” argument of AI porn

        You have a point, but I disagree. Black lives matter is effectively saying that black lives currently don’t matter (mainly when it comes to policing). All lives matter is being dismissive of that claim because no one really believes that white lives don’t matter to police. Pointing to the fact that there are male victims too is not dismissive of the fact that women are the primary victims of this. It’s almost the opposite and ignoring males is being dismissive of victims.

        People should be taking sides on this.

        Sorry, wasn’t clear on that point. What I was saying here is this will make people take sides based on their politics rather than on the merits of whether it’s wrong in and of itself.

        i really don’t think it was necessary.

        Neither was her speaking for swift, nor all of women kind, nor only making it about women, nor calling musk an edge lord. You seem to be making the same argument as me.

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    9 months ago

    Fake celebrity porn has existed since before photography, in the form of drawings and impersonators. At this point, if you’re even somewhat young and good-looking (and sometimes even if you’re not), the fake porn should be expected as part of the price you pay for fame. It isn’t as though the sort of person who gets off on this cares whether the pictures are real or not—they just need them to be close enough that they can fool themselves.

    Is it right? No, but it’s the way the world is, because humans suck.

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      9 months ago

      Honestly, the way I look at it is that the real offense is publishing.

      While still creepy, it would be hard to condemn someone for making fakes for personal consumption. Making an AI fake is the high-tech equivalent of gluing a cutout of your crush’s face onto a playboy centerfold. It’s hard to want to prohibit people from pretending.

      But posting those fakes online is the high-tech, scaled-up version of xeroxing the playboy centerfold with your crush’s face on it, and taping up copies all over town for everyone to see.

      Obviously, there’s a clear line people should not cross, but it’s clear that without laws to deter it, AI fakes are just going to circulate freely.

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        9 months ago

        AI fake is the high-tech equivalent of gluing a cutout of your crush’s face onto a playboy centerfold.

        At first I read that as “cousin’s face” and I was like “bru, that’s oddly specific.” Lol

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    9 months ago

    I feel like this is amazing. Everyone can get any porn they want and no one gets hurt? And if nudes of anyone are ever “leaked” you could just say they’re AI generated. It’s like a win win win.

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    9 months ago

    WHAT?? DISGUSTING! WHERE WOULD THESE JERKS PUT THIS ? WHAT SPECIFIC WEBSITE DO I NEED TO BOYCOTT?

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      9 months ago

      So you’re saying that the more wealth a person has, the more they deserve crimes against them? Come one know kid. Do you really want to think this way?

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        That’s not their point and you know it. Get your bad faith debating tactics out of here.

        She isn’t living “every woman’s nightmare” because a woman without the wealth and influence Taylor has might actually suffer significant consequences. For Taylor, it’s just a weird Tuesday. For an average small town lady, it might mean loss of a job, loss of mate, estrangement from family and friends… That’s a nightmare.

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            9 months ago

            You just keep shifting your argument to create some sort of sympathy. I guess. No one says a rich person isn’t a victim. The point is is being a victim as a wealthy and influential woman like Taylor is a lot different than being a victim in a working class context. If you disagree with that, then you’re either being intellectually dishonest or living in a dream world.

            Even the law agrees. It’s a lot harder as a celebrity to win a defamation lawsuit than it is being a normal person. You typically have to show actual malice. Frankly, that’s the legal standard that would probably apply to any lawsuit involving the deep fakes anyway.

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    9 months ago

    I’m not saying she shouldn’t have complained about this. She has every right to, but complaining about it definitely made the problem a lot worse.

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        9 months ago

        Except she’s the most famous woman in the country, a well-established sex symbol, and already the subject of enumerable erotic fantasies and fictions.

        Its the same problem as “The Fappening” from forever ago. The fact that this exists is its own fuel and whether she chooses to acknowledge it or not is a moot point. Someone is going to talk about it and the news will spread.

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    9 months ago

    This shit is gross in general but she absolutely markets herself as a sex icon. I guarantee you she’s not that upset about more free publicity.

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        9 months ago

        Read up on her. She 100% portrays a product and sells that product. She knows what she’s doing.

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            9 months ago

            She’s literally said that in interviews. She’s super smart. She knows her persona is a product. That’s not a jab. Every famous person that has a personal brand does this. Her brand just happens to be called the same as her name.

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              9 months ago

              No I get that, but her personal or brand is not her getting fucked. Just because she is attractive and makes money playing music and shit doesn’t mean that her brand is sex appeal

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                9 months ago

                I didn’t say anything about porn. But if you think she doesn’t understand and leverage sex appeal… I just don’t know what to tell you.

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                  9 months ago

                  It sort of sounds like your argument is 'she was asking for it" which I don’t necessarily agree with.