• dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    a : aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)

    I will never understand why this 👆is such a bad thing. Personally, I find it complimentary. But then again, I believe in facts and truth, and the betterment of society as a whole.

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      The meaning of a word doesn’t matter to them. They’re told it’s a bad thing and that they’re to oppose it, like the attack command for a dog that’s been trained to be racist.

      It’s why everytime they have a new trigger word like “woke” or “CRT”, there is always a stream of clips of supporters and pundits who can’t articulate what the word means but are staunchly opposed to it anyway.

      Within that, there’s probably people who do know what it means, they just can’t say things like “I oppose anyone being empathetic or fair to minorities” out loud, even though that’s exactly their view.

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      9 months ago

      Alt right playbook: find a word the left uses, then say it with disgust in frequent rants about the left. Followers associate negative feelings and connotations with the word without ever having to learn its meaning.

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        Just as a perfect example of this is being liberal

        Being a liberal is literally being for liberty

        Liberty is basically defined by The Bill of Rights. Basically what the US Constitution is based in.

        So the right has to make it a bad word because if people actually realized that, well yeah who doesn’t support that shit?! They won’t get anyone to vote against their best interests. Instead they require people vote to benefit social hierarchy that creates in groups that the law defends and out groups that the law binds.

        • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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          Worth noting that “liberal” also has other connotations. You appear to be referring to social liberalism, which is a great thing for the majority of humanity. Frequently, the term is used to refer to economic liberalism, which is a right-wing ideology. This is why you have leftists speaking negatively about (neo)liberalism. It’s an ideology focused primarily on unfettered capitalism and devalues everything that is not directly related to profit. It is also the ideology followed by nearly all western governments’ ruling parties (including the Dems in the US).

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              2A for starters. 1A when it doesn’t suit them. As much as most don’t like it, hate speech is expressly protected speech. It’s morally repugnant, but still protected. Much like burning the flag. A ton seem to be ok with nixing the 4th in an attempt to nullify the 2nd.

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                Nearly everyone is guilty of what you’re saying about 1A. And I’d argue the right is making a far more concerted effort and progress in banning books and speech they disagree with.

                You have something on the 2A, but I’d argue again that some people on the right believe they have a right “or need” for rocket launchers and miniguns. Which, maybe per the 2A they do. But the problem is that the people who think those weapons are necessary to protect them from a tyrannical government accidentally allowed those things to get used on schools. And, all of those people and the NRA love to ignore the well regulated part. So there’s extremists on both sides.

                And I’d argue no one assaulted 4A like the patriot act which was definitely not liberals (but I’m sure some were involved).

                Extremists on both sides are guilty and one of “our” tasks as rational citizens is to not generalize “those we disagree with more” as said extremists.

                Thanks for answering tho.

                p.s. if you want to see some fascinating history about hate speech and 1A watch the recent American Experience episode called Nazi Town USA. It will only be available to watch online for another week or so (at least at the source).

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          Nah, warriors kill people. Batman is like the Hall Monitor of justice.

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              Always the wrong ones, as far as actually putting a stop to things. Kind of like Democrats always doing something, but it’s never universal healthcare or raising the minumum wage, or raising taxes on the rich, nooo… We cannot do impactful things, because then maybe the world would change! and change is scary…

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        I don’t know, but I always thought grok was a fairly progressive idea. Outside of the genocidal implications, of course. To seek understanding so deep that you become a part of what you’re trying to understand and it becomes a part of you, sounds pretty good to me.

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      I will never understand why this 👆is such a bad thing

      because it’s been coined by the Black comminity.

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      That’s not the definition conservatives are using, obviously. And they don’t have a consistent definition between them either. Making a movie with a black person? Woke. Passing legislation to save the environment? Woke. Being gay? Woke. Disliking racists? Woke.

      That’s why I hate it. If it was something solid, even with a negative connotation, we could use it for political discussion.