• graymess@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    It is literally the meaning behind the meme. There’s a silhouette of two men labeled “you” and “Microsoft” with the Microsoft man depicted as the top, the one doing the fucking, the one in the stereotypical position of power in the act. The message is, “Microsoft fucks you like this man fucks this other man in the ass.” I don’t have to spell this out, it’s what’s in the picture.

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      8 months ago

      So if one has boobs would it be hateful toward straight people? It’s actually just as simple as using the word “fucking” as a verb to imply hurting or taking advantage of another person. It was then made into graphical format. This requires a leap to see anything in it besides that.

      Do you get mad every time you hear “you fucked me!”?

      Other than someone being a whiner about the word fuck, I’ve never ever heard of this being stretched into some sort of bigotry. Because it absolutely isn’t.

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        8 months ago

        Yeah, it’s all from the same origin. The implication being that the one penetrating is “the man” and the one being penetrated is “the woman.” The other part of the implication being to fuck someone is good and powerful and dominating and being fucked is bad and immaculating and submissive.

        If that sounds like I’m adding my own words and meaning to a simple phrase, think about what is actually being said when you say “you’re getting fucked by Microsoft.” What, you don’t want to get fucked? Why? Sex is supposed to be a positive thing two people can do together. Unless the one “getting fucked” doesn’t want to and now we’re not talking about fucking, we’re talking about using violent rape as an analogy for what a software company is doing to its userbase and that’s just…kind of fucked up. I shouldn’t have to explain why, right?

        Anyway, no, I don’t get mad whenever I hear a phrase that stems from heteronormative ideas of sex. I don’t assume the person saying it is homophobic or an idiot, they probably just don’t know. But a friend once educated me on the subject, I thought about it, and I agree. So now I avoid using phrases like that, and when someone openly questions it like you have, cool, I’ll stop and talk about it.

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          8 months ago

          Maybe there’s something that I’m still missing, but the genders could be any which way and it would still give the same meaning: fucking or screwing someone over. It’s vulgar and tasteless but I don’t think it is necessarily homophobic or misogynistic.

          It does simply imply someone is being (sexually) dominated by another, but there’s no placement of “good” or “bad”—just that Microsoft users are being dominated by Microsoft, which is roughly true. I do think it’s a crude analogy and a terrible meme, but to say it’s anything more seems like a stretch.