• PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Only one death where FSD was active. But FSD disables itself automatically as soon as it predicts an imminent collision. It literally just goes “Jesus take the wheel” and turns itself off. So Musk fanboys like you can make that exact “only one death related to FSD” argument, because Tesla absolves itself of responsibility as soon as the collision is expected.

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      7 months ago

      But like… what’s the real number?

      Because on the flip side of Elon fanbois is those going full monkey brain and equating any risk at all with new thing with the new thing being worse than the old thing.

      Cuz there’s a possibility that actually “FSD” may do some stupid shit from time to time (plenty of evidence on YouTube) but is still overall safer than a human driver. It’s just that monkey brain says we should spend trillions on fighting terrorism when heart disease is literally millions of times more likely to kill you.

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        7 months ago

        The real numbers are that in 2023, Teslas had more crashes per car than any other automaker. Teslas clocked in at 23.54 crashes per 1000 cars. The next highest was Ram, at 22.76 per 1000. Third was Subaru, at 20.90. Those were the only three automakers with numbers over 20, and Tesla is obviously above all the others by a fairly large margin.

        Then when we look at incident rates, Tesla comes in second. “Incidents” also includes things like speeding, DUIs, reckless driving, and other citations. Ram came in first at 32.90 per 1000, and Tesla came in second at 31.13. So Ram owners are more likely to get pulled over and cited, but less likely to crash.

        In 2023, 322 frontal wrecks (that is, wrecks where the Tesla ran directly into something) were known to have happened immediately after the Tesla disengaged its self-driving.