• mox@lemmy.sdf.org
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    3 months ago

    I couldn’t bring myself to watch more than half of this.

    tl;dr: This video is a misleading, sensationalist, bad-fath, hit piece. It’s constructed upon faulty logic, fear of things used or supported by governments, and a single anonymous person’s poorly-reasoned conclusions.

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    3 months ago

    Nothing wrong with the matrix spec. I’ve ran a matrix homeserver for several years now and have never had issues with illegal material. It’s free, open source, and self-hostable. If you have an issue with matrix.org that’s a different issue. Don’t use matrix.org servers. In fact, they have made it a point in their literature that they want you to use your own servers, they preach against centralization, and point out that matrix.org is an entryway to get you started, not an endpoint.

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        3 months ago

        Yes I watched your video. So many wrong comments from ignorance. And blaming a protocol for the behavior of people? Another commenter here pointed out how Tor could be blamed in the same way. Why not just do away with the internet then? Ridiculous.

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    3 months ago

    Matrix is developed by a for profit entity, a group of venture capitalists and having a spec doesn’t mean everything. The way Matrix is designed is to force into jumping through hoops and kind of draw all attention to Matrix itself instead of the end result.

    XMPP is the true and the OG federated and truly open solution that is very extensible. XMPP is tested, reliable, secure and above all a truly open standard and decentralized it just lacks some investment in better mobile clients.

    What people fail to see is that XMPP is the only solution that treats messaging and video like email: just provide an address and the servers and clients will cooperate with each other in order to maintain a conversation. Everything else is just an attempt at yet another vendor lock-in.

    People need to get this through their heads, XMPP is the only solution for their problems.

    Instead of wasting money into making yet another protocol, closed system etc. what about just work on a cross platform XMPP client that actually supports everything and has a decent UI. For eg. iOS clients are all shit. Without decent clients and push notifications people won’t be using XMPP ever.

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    I mean i get that matrix is used by bad people, but that doesn’t mean that matrix is bad.

    Any decentralized platform will have this issue with csam, but that doesn’t make ot bad. Matrix is basically what TOR is to browsing the internet, people use TOR for CSAM but that doesn’t make tor bad.

    However he does raise up a big concern and thats that homeserver admins are unable to change what they are hosting which means that they are forced to host CSAM which is a really big issue

    Overall tho, matrix is still a good platform. There’s nothing wrong with government contracts, its all open source. TOR was developed by the us military but that doesn’t make it bad or even less effective

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      3 months ago

      that doesn’t make it bad

      not inherently no. just like computers, the internet, gps, tor etc., all came from government/military funding

      the first digital computer was even created specifically to calculate how to kill people better in the war.

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    It’s kinda strange, the guy reached a conclusion that the service is legit hard to control and take down by any government, but was insisting on: BUT… BUT… BUT… trying to stress the negative points, which by the way, they’re way more apparent on other Big tech Platforms, specifically : Discord…

    If you have a centralized server and that server straight out refuses to take measures against abuse ( I’m just gonna say abuse in general and that includes all things: Child abuse, Ra*e, addictive drugs…etc )

    if you as a user notice these things and after you report them nothing happens… Then what ? Wait until a big news outlet notice, then they publish it on their website, and after a week or so, you’ll watch the CEO walk away from court like nothing happened…

    On Matrix, as a user, I can spin up my own server, make my own rules, and make sure stuff like this ( abuse ) doesn’t happen, the point here is that you can’t blame Element Team or Matrix Team for what happens on this system, they just make the software and people deploy it

    the only thing left to blame afterwards is human nature!

    Which brings me to an important question, who is his source ? they must have great control over the network to realize that Matrix ( a huge decentralized network with many servers is a pit of abuse ) !!!

    without a source ? without knowing how they knew what they claimed ? this video is just a conspiracy theory in my view… And having ties to the French government isn’t necessarily a bad thing… ( knowing that the French government spied on it’s citizens, yes )

    I have been using Matrix for years, and never encountered a single instance of abuse… trolls yes… Hentai…yes … but no shady stuff… It’s mostly nerds talking about Computers, Linux and Anime

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      never encountered a single instance of abuse

      I encounter it literally every single day and I know many others that do too. It’s so bad it makes me want to quit using Matrix altogether. You’re just not in the right (wrong) rooms. The ones that happen to get left unmoderated are always taken over by bad actors, not even talking about the ones (like mentioned in the video) that were deliberately setup to harbor vile content, which is also plentiful unfortunately.

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        3 months ago

        Wtf ? I use it semi often and have never enxouterd it either. That seems a little off ? You make it sound like.its all over the place like with Discord.