• thingsiplay@beehaw.org
    47·
    1 month ago

    Such polls / surveys are extremely questionable. I wouldn’t even know what rating to give, if someone asks me how happy I am. This is a dumb question to ask to begin with. Let alone everyone has a different standard to what 10/10 or 5/10 means. And then only 6000 (+ some) have been taken part.

    I can’t believe this was a real poll / survey.

    • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.orgDeutsch
      164·
      1 month ago

      That was the longest “I am using arch btw” I have ever seen. And while I am on the topic, I am using arch btw.

    • Zucca@sopuli.xyz
      7·
      1 month ago

      Also the graph is pretty much zoomed in. It exaggerates the differences between the bars.

    • superkret@feddit.orgOP
      72·
      1 month ago

      The following data was obtained from polling done between January 22nd and February 9th, 2023. A few details about the polling conducted:
      6,022 people answered the questions.
      This is significantly larger than the vast majority of national polls conducted during Presidential Elections in the USA (most of which have less than 2,000 respondents).
      The poll was presented to audiences of several shows and news sites in order to obtain a large, diverse sample of computer nerds.
      The questions were wide-ranging, 100% optional, and no personal data was collected.

      Let’s start from a very high level:
      6,022 computer nerds & enthusiasts were asked the following simple question: “On a scale of 1 to 10, how happy would you say you are (in general)?”

      • lemmyvore@feddit.nlEnglish
        15·
        1 month ago

        In polls the demographics of the participants are selected so they are statistically significant.

        When you poll visitors to a website there’s no telling what biases might be at work. For example, Arch is a popular distribution so its prevalence in the results could simply be an indicator of that.

        Last but not least, correlation does not necessarily mean causation, and that goes especially for an uncontrolled sample. There’s a famous example that says “100% of the people who drink water die after that”.

      • thingsiplay@beehaw.org
        1·
        1 month ago

        You can’t compare to the President Elections in the USA. The answers are very serious and with a huge impact, so people will choose wisely. And they are complete randoms. Compared to the question to nerds how happy they are in a rating between 1 and 10 and then connecting the happiness to the operating system they are using. It’s like asking how happy people are and then connecting this to the current president. Who said other factors didn’t play a role?

    • Babbiorsetto@lemmy.sdf.org
      1·
      1 month ago

      You can just take it for what it is: How people respond when asked to grade their happiness from 1 to 10. Of course it’s subjective, but it’s interesting that arch users rate their happiness lower overall.

        • astro_ray@lemdro.idEnglish
          6·
          1 month ago

          Same. I call bullshit. First of all, for me Lunduke = Bullshit. Second, the moment it said people voluntarily participated in this survey, you just know that the demography of the survey takers will be extremely biased.

  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    44·
    1 month ago

    I’m immensely sceptical of anything that comes from Lunduke.

    I don’t really know what happened to him but he went kinda nuts.

      • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        1 month ago

        This seemed interesting to me, so I prepared a cup of tea, sat down to watch, then quickly realised I’ve already seen this before, oops 😅

        Thanks for the link regardless, I’m sure others are seeing it for the first time

      • myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website
        2·
        1 month ago

        Thanks for the link! I was trying to figure out the Lunduke complaints (I don’t know if I’ve ever heard of this guy before). This video did a solid job of catching me up.

    • pH3ra@lemmy.ml
      11·
      1 month ago

      Yeah, he was already on a weird path but after Covid he went down really hard.
      I hope he will seek help and get better

    • smackjack@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 month ago

      I used to enjoy listening to him on YouTube simply because he didn’t yell in his videos like every other YouTuber. He had a bit of a Bob Ross vibe to him, but then he went off the deep end.

    • superkret@feddit.orgOP
      71·
      1 month ago

      Looking at the distro/happiness graph, it’s probably an age thing.
      Younger computer users are less happy.

    • moonlight@fedia.io
      3·
      1 month ago

      Probably the latter. I’ve been a two or three on the scale since before I used Arch or Firefox.

  • MajorHavoc@programming.dev
    18·
    1 month ago

    The real data point here is that Skackware users are happy.

    I suspect it’s because they’ve mastered the art of not giving a fuck.

  • narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee
    15·
    1 month ago

    This is one of those correlation != causation things, hm?

    It might be more a case of the “average” Arch user being more sensitive to small quirks/bugs or certain defaults. Arch is at least comparatively unbiased, which might be why these users pick Arch in the first place.

    I would personally agree with where Arch is because I prefer a distribution that mostly works out of the box and already made a lot of the decisions for me that I don’t want to be bothered with. I do still customize quite a few elements to my (sometimes very specific) liking, but I also like that I don’t have to do anything when it comes to configuring my disk layout, or configuring zram, or install and configure fwupd or other packages that kind of just make sense to have.

    But I don’t really see why Arch users can’t be as happy with their choice as I am with mine, unless the only reason they “use Arch btw” is that they think that’s unironically something to brag about (or peer pressure, but that shouldn’t be a thing I hope).

    • superkret@feddit.orgOP
      6·
      1 month ago

      This is just fun with statistics. I don’t think your Linux distro has a big impact on your overall happiness in life, but of course you can order the results by any parameter you like.
      Often, it’s a third factor that influences both, in this case probably age, which influences happiness and distro choice.
      Or maybe having the time and inclination to install Arch correlates with being in a bad place in your life right now.
      I know I was tinkering with Linux all day when I was procrastinating and locked away in my room for days.

      • TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org
        61·
        1 month ago

        in this case probably age

        Arch: for the young’uns with some fire left in them that just discovered open source and want to stick it to M$ and show off in front of friends.

        Debian: When those people grow up and start having to do actual work on their computers…

        I went through that cycle over the last 25 years. Thought I was hot shit running Slackware on a ThinkPad 380 when all my friends were on Windows 98. Then I got better things to do than running configure scripts all day and tweaking the UI yet again.

        • superkret@feddit.orgOP
          3·
          1 month ago

          I run Slackware because I got better things to do than configure my system.
          The installation was a bit more involved than Debian cause you have to set up grub and install flatpak yourself, but then it just sits there, works and never really changes, which is nice.
          It’s designed to not surprise you and let you do with it whatever you want, including nothing.

        • NaN@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
          3·
          1 month ago

          I installed Gentoo on an already ancient IBM Thinkpad with a Pentium 100. It had to use Debian boot floppies to kick off the installation process.

          I don’t think I’d do that today.

      • KeriKitty (They(/It))@pawb.socialEnglish
        3·
        1 month ago

        having the time and inclination to install Arch correlates with being in a bad place in your life right now.

        True for me. I’m using Arch because I don’t have a system that can run Gentoo ;P

        Actually I’ve oscillated between the two for many years. Every few years I switch to the other one and enjoy it for a few. … Only, now I’m stuck on a laptop that would melt if I tried to put Gentoo on it v.v I hope some day I will have a real computer again v.v Among other things 😅 😞

  • ulkesh@beehaw.orgEnglish
    13·
    1 month ago

    Oh look, another Lunduke article. I’m sure there’s no bias at all. Nope.

    In any case, I adore Arch and Firefox and am extremely happy with my Garuda install.

  • zod000@lemmy.ml
    8·
    1 month ago

    These results seem freaking bizarre and I’m highly skeptical. You’re telling me that Slackware users, freaking SLACKWARE, are the happiest? And Firefox is the least happy? I am so much happier using Firefox than have been with Chrome for at least a decade.

    • superkret@feddit.orgOP
      101·
      1 month ago

      The question wasn’t how happy users are with their distro, but in general. My theory is, people who have a lot of great things going on in their life (wife, kids, social life) don’t bother installing Arch.

    • Troy@lemmy.ca
      2·
      1 month ago

      As a former slackware aficionado, I’d have to say that the general mood of the users and development team was super chill. Hell, the name slackware comes from “slack”, the goal of the Church of the SubGenius. The whole thing is a meme that’s been going steady for decades.

      I had the privilege of meeting Patrick and much of the core Slackware group at the KDE 4.0 release party. They are all awesome.

      I can expect that users that tolerate the Slackware style are also those that are pretty laid back to begin with. Probably they were happier people already, and using slackware just vibes with them.

  • Technotica@lemmy.world
    81·
    1 month ago

    I use Arch! How dare you say that I am unhappy? I am frothing at my mouth! I am totally happy, can’t you see that? CAN’T YOU SEE THAT???

  • nyan@sh.itjust.works
    7·
    1 month ago

    So of the three happiest distros, two aren’t very concerned with mainstream appeal and will carry on contentedly doing their thing while ignoring rankings like this. Sounds about right.