I am shocked. Shocked! /s

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    2 months ago

    Does it matter that they don’t run an instance?

    As long as they have accounts and keep them up to date, that is the main thing.

    How many open source projects actually run and moderate instances?

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      2 months ago

      The effectiveness of the internet as a public resource depends upon interoperability (protocols, data formats, content), innovation and decentralized participation worldwide.

      - Mozilla Manifesto, Principle 6, emphasis mine

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      I understand that they need to diversify so that they’re not so dependent on Google’s default search engine money. I don’t know how they should do that.

      But I’m not sure what they’ve been doing has been all that good of an idea.

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    Weird that they called it a “Beta”, like running a chat server you didn’t code is somehow an experiment. Just say you couldn’t be arsed running it anymore.

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    I don’t get why, I can’t see this be difficult or costly to run, but then again I have no clue, never ran a Mastodon instance.

    I would assume that it’s not worth the small reach compared to running X / Bluesky / Threads accounts but then again, like I said, the cost must be super small. 🤷

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      If Mozilla doesn’t discontinue a Mastodon server with under 300 people, how will it continue funding the $65 million AI and venture capital investments they’ve been making?! 😬

  • Mina Harker@berlin.social
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    2 months ago

    @dantheclamman

    I am definitely starting to hate #Mozilla.

    As a remark: I have always been fine with their deal with Pocket and having Google as their default search engine. In the end, there are bills to be paid.

    Until I learned that e.g. Mozilla Corporation’s CEO is on a multi-million dollar salary, and they’re hiring ai and ad people.

    Not OK for an entity where many highly skilled people code for free.

    It’s not what users want the cash to be spent on.

    Leaving the Fedi is the final drop

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      I was cool with them buying Pocket. But as a long time user of Pocket, I feel it has horribly stagnated. Far more features have been lost than have been gained.

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    Mozilla 2012: We’re winning the browser war and saving the web. You’re welcome.

    Mozilla 2017: Competing with Chrome is hard. What if we break all existing extensions and never let people replace them all?

    Mozilla 2021: Through inclusiveness and the power of positive thinking we will facilitate leadership towards in-depth studies of what we can do to improve social media.

    Mozilla 2024: Running a small mastodon instance is just too hard, we give up.

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      Just a little comment on 2021: It seems disingenuous, from their perspective. Steve Teixeira, In a lawsuit, is claiming that not only did Mozilla try to get him to fire employees who were disproportionately minorities, but they were within a group that was producing a profit for Mozilla.

      In other words, Mozilla might have been preaching inclusivity publicly while practicing exclusivity privately.

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    This sucks (Was it really costing much money to run?) but as long as Firefox continues to work with full-flavor ublock I’m happy.

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    The only thing you need to know about how Lemmings think about politics is that they bash Mozilla more than Google.

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        Perhaps I should rephrase. They attack Mozilla (and users of Firefox) infinitely more than Google (and users of various Google products). I heard it said after Mozilla introduced their opt-out privacy-respecting ad tracking that users should “move to a more privacy-friendly browser like Google Chrome”.

        This is true of Lemmy’s political stance in general. Tell them you’re a leftist but not vegan? They’ll call you a murderer. Tell them you’re a leftist but not an anarcho-communist? Yeah I’ll bet you love capitalism and the human suffering it causes, you Chauvinist pig! Tell them you’re a liberal? You’re practically a Nazi collaborator! (All things I have actually heard Lemmings say.) But tell them you’re a conservative and they leave you alone.

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          I’ve never seen self-proclaimed leftists hurl more vitriol than when an openly-socialist labor organizer in my union said they were for freedom of speech (for humans) and generally supportive of firearm ownership. Absolutely wild reaction.

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            But don’t you understand? Any language or policy the right adopts, we must abandon, even if, on its face (if not in the right wing implementation of it), it’s something we agree with. Otherwise how will we identify and shun right wingers? They could be hiding anywhere, you know.

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              It’s like when Bush Jr. pushed for the adoption of reading programs across America that focused on phonics, so people took a rebellious stance and taught kids “balanced reading” which taught kids to memorize words rather than the sounds that make up words.

              The result: an epidemic of illiteracy to own the Republicans. Bush was/is a warmongering piece of shit but he was right about phonics being the correct way to learn reading.