• hulfpa@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    This move makes zero sense to me. Why, change it? It’s not it’s official name or international recognized name so wtf

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      The USA is now part of a list of “sensitive countries” with authoritarian states with their own version of reality. When users in one of the countries on this list visit Google sites, they see that government’s version of reality. This is nothing new. Google does it all the time with disputed territories. It’s only news because it’s the first time the US has an authoritarian government.

      Here’s how it looks when visiting from a Mexican device with the language set to Australian English while located in Hungary.

      1000019054

      Edit: undoxxed myself lol

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        6 months ago

        To be clear, they’ve changed names in line with official government policy before, not just for Trump’s admin.

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          6 months ago

          Yeah but that makes too much sense for emotional & reactional people that don’t rely on logic

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            5 months ago

            I get what you’re saying, but the renaming itself is entirely an act of emotion and reaction, with no trace of logic, too. It’s pretty much all we should expect to see from anyone for a while.

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            5 months ago

            They are a private organization with the right to say “lol that’s nice”, and leave it as the gulf of mexico. Executive orders direct government policy.

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    5 months ago

    Google has the ability to stand up to trump. To destroy him, frankly.

    But they’d have to not be little bitches, so I guess they don’t.

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    5 months ago

    I’d really love for someone to come up with a phone OS that I could use on my cell phone. Mine runs on Android and I want to dump all things Google! I read that they have an exclusive deal with reddit where ALL data on reddit would be made available to them for training their AI algorithms. I went on perplexity.ai to check for this and here’s the response I received to my query: The deal between Reddit and Google to share data for AI training and search purposes will likely have significant impacts on Reddit user privacy:

    1. Increased data sharing: Google will have exclusive access to Reddit’s Data API, allowing them to collect real-time, structured content from the platform13. This means more user-generated content and activity data will be shared with a third party.
    2. Enhanced user profiling: Google will use this data to improve its AI models and search capabilities, potentially leading to more accurate user profiling across Google’s services36.
    3. Potential for more personalized advertising: With access to Reddit’s data, Google may be able to create more detailed user profiles, potentially leading to more targeted advertising both on and off Reddit26.
    4. Reduced anonymity: While Reddit has traditionally allowed for relative anonymity, this data sharing could make it easier to connect Reddit activity with other online identities13.
    5. Increased scrutiny of user content: As Reddit seeks to maintain its value for AI training, there may be stricter moderation and potential removal of certain types of content or communities4.
    6. Changes to user agreements: Reddit may update its privacy policy and user agreement to reflect this new data sharing arrangement, potentially granting themselves broader rights to use and share user data6. It’s important to note that while Reddit claims it does not sell personal information to third parties, this deal represents a significant change in how user data is shared and utilized23. Users concerned about privacy may need to be more cautious about the information they share on the platform and may want to review their privacy settings regularly. P.S.: Ignore the weird numbers as those are reference links. I copy-pasted this stuff.
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      5 months ago

      It exists and is called graphene OS. It is primarily focused on privacy and security though and as such only supports google pixels since they have both good hardware security and fast security patches. Most others fail at one of the two.

      Otherwise you could install calyx OS.

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    5 months ago

    I just need to use Gemini until this semester is over, then I’ll be degoogling completely. I just wish I could deapple too, but nope. Nearly every OS for mobile is built on android, browsers that are for “security” are run on chromium, safari is good for security but you have to pay for iCloud plus or whatever they call it to get the private relay option, it is infuriating that we just can’t get freedom from this garbage. Things are purposefully made to be so expensive that only huge companies can afford to run it, openAI and meta literally pirated books, articles, journals, etc and although WE don’t like it, the government doesn’t care because OpenAI and meta are big companies who can do those things; neither Trump nor Biden gave a shit about it. We need

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      There are a few options like graphene os, /e/os, lineage OS etc. Take a look. I am de Googleing right now and shifted to e/os for a few months, it has been going well.

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    5 months ago

    No better time than the present to switch to OpenStreetMap

    For Android, I use OsmAnd~ which uses OpenStreetMap data and allows you to download maps to calculate routes offline, something Google Maps couldn’t do for routes by foot and by bike last time I tried.

    It also has better coverage for some small paths in natural areas like forests. Give it a try!

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      5 months ago

      You’re all welcome in !openstreetmap@lemmy.ml to discuss antying OSM-related.

      The namechange of the Gulf has been discussed on our forum; how to deal with this has been decided in consensus.

      And, obligated self-promo: if you want to start contributing to OSM, you can try https://mapcomplete.org/ (which is someting else then the StreetComplete app, but that one is nice too!)

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      OsmAnd is a nightmare in terms of user experience! I dropped it 8 years ago because it was a horror. I gave it a try again last month because, you know, maybe people have done something about the useless navigation, the totally overpacked UI, the sluggish behaviour etc. Guess what? It’s the same terrible (!) app it was 8 years ago!

      FCK Google, but if that’s all that there is as an alternative, well…

      I use Magic Earth. It’s not Open Source afaik but they claim they dont collect data (…🤔). I don’t believe this so use these apps as little as possible.

      Greetings, an open source enthousiast

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        Agree with you, OsmAnd is practically unusable for me due to the ancient UI. I hated it every time I used it.

        I found Organic Maps to be a decent modern alternative. It’s open source and uses data from openstreetmaps as well, but it’s a million times less cluttered.

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    Meanwhile on Openstreetmap:

    name Golfo de México

    name:en Gulf of Mexico

    official_name:en_US Gulf of America

    Showing just enough acknowledgement to confirm they’ve discussed the executive order, but they aren’t going to follow it.

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    Using the website from outside of the US shows it with its proper name, but then the asshat version in parentheses.

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    5 months ago

    Time for a repeat comment: Organic Maps does everything Google Maps does (except traffic conditions), and is FOSS. Please encourage places to contribute business information to Open Street Maps.

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      I think this is important. That said, traffic info is the whole ballgame for many people. People who live, work, and drive in metro areas frequently use map applications even when driving everyday routes to avoid traffic.

      I don’t see Google/Waze/Apple maps getting any less popular unless there is a FOSS alternative that includes live traffic, which does not seem possible while remaining free. People will choose free every time, especially since Google maps works so well.

      Personally, I would pay some amount for a privacy-minded alternative, something like OrganicMaps with live traffic. But I doubt it could ever attain the user base it would need to provide accurate traffic info.

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      “Except traffic” is not a little thing. It’s like putting up an ad for a house with all the features you’d expect, except a roof.

      With my daily commute, there are a dozen routes I can take and traffic conditions make it so that from day to day, there can be an hour difference between different routes. It’s literally the only reason I use navigation apps over a cheap GPS unit with no live online connection requirement to navigate.

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    It’s not google’s fault. It was told to do so and has. Does anyone seriously expect them not to have done this?

    Every American company, or company doing business in America, needs to toe the line of an unpredictable and vindictive president, especially one as fat and tempting as Google.

    Now there’ll be a disconnect in mapping between what some sources say and what others do, but anyone with a little history knowledge knows this isn’t the first time.

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        look, fuck google for many reasons, but not this. this is just keeping your head down and trying to survive the shit storm.

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          In nazi Germany they had a name for those who kept their heads down and tried to survive the shitstorm. They were called Nazis.

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            ooo. somebody’s looking to score some upvotes for their virtue signaling.

            well, i’ll tell ya what boss… how about you get out there and start killing nazi’s then. otherwise you are one (by your own reasoning)

          • dustyb0tt0mz@lemmy.worldBanned
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            sure. whatever. fuck google. i’m definitely not here to defend google.

            it’s beginning to look like there is no helping you people though. it’s like you all just got here and you’re trying to convince the oldest grognard how bad things are. like, motherfucker, i’ve been here since 9/11.

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      For me it’s extra strange. If I zoom out, I see “Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)”. However when I zoom in it changes to just “Guild of America”.

      I’m American also in the US.

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    Something adjacent to degoogling: I am concerned that Microsoft would collaborate with the Trump Regime. I never used Linux before, but I am now downloading Ubuntu. It feels like that I should do a dual-boot setup and get ready to abandon Windows if I hear about MS HQ in Washington having a DOGE presence.

    Here’s hoping that Europe and the Blue States are watching Microsoft for anything weird.