• Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    There are also many others in US and worldwide.

    We are comparing chatGPT and Deepseek.

    China is worse when comparing many other factors

    Again, not an opinion everyone agrees on. And this very much depends on which factors are cherry picked.

    but if ALL you care about is whether the model weights are os,

    If you want privacy then you need to run locally, and to run locally all you do care about is model weights.

    then it is usually not decided by countries, but rather companies.

    Not sure why this dimension is worth adding to the discussion.

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      2 months ago

      We are comparing chatGPT and Deepseek.

      Then why are you asking binary questions about countries? Meta released open source models and weights way before DeepSeek, but I guess that wouldn’t fit into your “China is better” narrative so we’ll just pretend Llama never happened.

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        1 month ago

        Then why are you asking binary questions about countries

        Because a highly opinionated binary statement was made about China. I’m not saying China is better than the US. I’m saying it’s not worse.

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      1 month ago

      We are comparing chatGPT and Deepseek.

      You asked “which countries”.

      not an opinion everyone agrees on.

      Only people who don’t have their heads buried in the sand. You can’t possibly believe China is not much much worse than the US. I literally don’t believe you. You’re a bot or a paid actor.

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        1 month ago

        You asked “which countries”.

        Countries and LLM model providers associated with those countries.

        • All openai data goes to the NSA

        • Online deepseek data goes to the CCP. Local models stay private.

        You can’t possibly believe China is not much much worse than the US.

        When it comes to AI models, China is streets ahead in openness.

        But if you are introducing other factors, ask an Iranian what they prefer; money from China or bombs from the US and vassal states?

        The only people believing that Americans are superior in everything are Americans.