We continue our annual tradition of looking back at Microsoft's wins, fails, and WTF moments: its victories, failures, and things that left you shaking your head. There's no other way to say it: Microsoft had a bad 2025.
I disagree. Doing so reduced the amount of diversity in rendering engines and reinforced the idea that lazy site owners don’t have to test against more than one browser. That’s a loss for the Web as a whole.
I mean the choice between only two browser engines isn’t what I would call “free” though, especially since Firefox is also pulling more and more bullshit.
He made a good overall point. Just saying he is wrong doesn’t actually make him wrong.
I mean the choice between only two browser engines isn’t what I would call “free” though, especially since Firefox is also pulling more and more bullshit.
Gecko and Chromium are both fully free software. Old Edge isn’t.
He made a good overall point.
No. It was a very weak defense of proprietary software.
Just saying he is wrong doesn’t actually make him wrong.
Just saying that doesn’t make it wrong but the “argument” is wrong.
Tried that browser on Linux. It crashes when you save a file. It doesn’t let you click on the URL bar to edit it (only keyboard works). “If it compiles, it ships, no testing needed”
The company was literally founded on the principal of “thanks for all the free software I learned on, from this point forward, everyone needs to pay (me) for everything and sharing is bad”. Sort of paraphrased from Bill Gates email to the hobbyists. Then it got big by selling vapourware based on nepotism and then nearly stealing a product to fill the order. Then they got their fingers into legislators and it got worse for everyone.
Do they ever?
Moving from a shitty proprietary web renderer to participate in Chromium development was an improvement.
I disagree. Doing so reduced the amount of diversity in rendering engines and reinforced the idea that lazy site owners don’t have to test against more than one browser. That’s a loss for the Web as a whole.
It killed the last proprietary engine. It made the web more free.
You’re wrong.
I mean the choice between only two browser engines isn’t what I would call “free” though, especially since Firefox is also pulling more and more bullshit.
He made a good overall point. Just saying he is wrong doesn’t actually make him wrong.
What about WebKit? That makes 3 browser engines although it’s primarily used on Apple devices.
WebKit-GTK is fine, Ladybird and Servo also exist.
The vehement defense of a shitty, proprietary Microsoft browser here is astonishing.
Gecko and Chromium are both fully free software. Old Edge isn’t.
No. It was a very weak defense of proprietary software.
Just saying that doesn’t make it wrong but the “argument” is wrong.
Microsoft: Kills crappy, insecure browser no one used and everyone hated.
Lemmy: BAD!
And now they moved to another crappy engine ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ what changed? Nothing much, except that they are locked in with Google’s bs.
Nothing changed going from IE Edge to Chromium Edge. Say that with a straight face next time.
Tried that browser on Linux. It crashes when you save a file. It doesn’t let you click on the URL bar to edit it (only keyboard works). “If it compiles, it ships, no testing needed”
The company was literally founded on the principal of “thanks for all the free software I learned on, from this point forward, everyone needs to pay (me) for everything and sharing is bad”. Sort of paraphrased from Bill Gates email to the hobbyists. Then it got big by selling vapourware based on nepotism and then nearly stealing a product to fill the order. Then they got their fingers into legislators and it got worse for everyone.