The move replaces SDDM but means giving up on custom login themes.

From their repo:

Plasma Login

Plasma Login provides a display manager for KDE Plasma, forked from SDDM and with an new frontend providing a greeter, wallpaper plugin integration and System Settings module (KCM).

What we want

  • Great out-of-box experience in multi-monitor and high DPI and HDR
  • Keyboard layout switching
  • Virtual keyboards
  • Easy Chinese/Japanese/Korean/Vietnamese (CJK) input
  • Screen readers for blind people (which then means volume control)
  • Remote (VNC/RDP) support from startup
  • Deeper Plasma integration including:
    • Display and keyboard brightness control
    • Full power management
    • Pairing trusted bluetooth devices
    • Login to known Wi-Fi for remote LDAP
    • Random Dent@lemmy.mlEnglish
      72·
      16 days ago
      • Types in username and password

      “Perfect! You are now logged into your computer. Enjoy your desktop!”

      • Nothing happens. Try to log in again

      “You’re absolutely right, I failed to log you in while claiming you had actually logged in. Good catch! I’ll log you into your system now. Have fun!”

      • Nothing happens
      • AldinTheMage@programming.dev
        4·
        16 days ago

        Letting AI decide if I entered the correct password is so much better than actually storing the passwords in an encrypted keychain (which can be hacked!!!). AI is revolutionizing security. This is the way of the future. /s

    • SuperiorOne@lemmy.mlEnglish
      3·
      16 days ago

      I demand a KoChauffeur+ button. How are we supposed to login to our computer without a slopchatbox!?

      • Domi@lemmy.secnd.me
        12·
        16 days ago

        It always chooses the default highest resolution, (which may not work on some devices with faulty EDID), does not respect the Wayland/X11 choice, has a long pause when going from login screen to desktop and does not support 24h clocks.

        Just to name a few.

        • Die4Ever@retrolemmy.comEnglish
          3·
          16 days ago

          has a long pause when going from login screen to desktop

          Yea I have noticed this. It takes a long time to switch back as well when you lock the computer, logout, switch users, etc

          • Domi@lemmy.secnd.me
            1·
            15 days ago

            The first one I think is a fundamental limitation in that display preferences by default is per-user. Maybe this makes it work for you? https://feddit.online/post/1350756/comment/6636228

            I don’t really have this problem anymore since I got rid of my projector which advertised a resolution it couldn’t handle. Had to login into the void since the login screen never showed up. Looks like this might be fixable nowadays.

            The 24h clock might be similar - check your system-wide locale.

            The locale is set to American English but the time format is set to German, something the lock screen can handle but SDDM cannot. I also tried applying the Plasma settings to SDDM a few times but it doesn’t really change anything.

      • warmaster@lemmy.worldOP
        9·
        16 days ago

        My biggest issue: no support for rdp

        Pet peeve: In immutable distros you can’t change the background image… and I happen to strongly dislike Aurora’s artwork. I run Aurora on my work laptop, and my login screen looks like some kind of a bizarre childish acid trip. Embarrassing to say the least, but the distro itself is top notch.

      • kumi@feddit.onlineEnglish
        7·
        16 days ago

        Things I’ve run into:

        1. Out of the box, the lock screen comes on after screen unblanking - late enough that when things aren’t snappy you can briefly catch the desktop without reauthing.

        2. Sometimes randomly after wake, keyboard input is not recognized in the password field at all. Except for Esc, which in this state appears to crash-restart it and makes it work again

        3. With a multi-monitor setup, I have still not been able to properly force the primary monitor. Is an issue because things like notifications and the login input will only show up on a usually turned off projector. This one might be PEBCAK.

        I have issues 1 and 3 with XFCE on lightdm, too, though.

        • mub@lemmy.ml
          3·
          16 days ago

          I have the same multiple monitor issue. I have an ultrawide on display port, and a smaller monitor on hdmi. Boot messages default to the ultrawide but the login prompt also defaults to the secondary display. Minor thing I know, but irritating.

        • Die4Ever@retrolemmy.comEnglish
          2·
          16 days ago

          I’ve definitely noticed #2 and #3, very annoying! They should both show the same text input (not a straight display clone since they might be different resolutions/ratios)

          On a side note, I’ve noticed some Linux installers don’t handle multiple screens well or high resolutions. I think Calamares is a big offender here, it doesn’t clone to every display so I end up stuck trying to use my sideways monitor. Or on a 4k screen everything is tiny for no reason, it should just default zoom on high resolution.

          I much prefer the installers that are just a regular window on a normal desktop, where you can move it, maximize it, easily access the DPI settings and other system settings, browse the internet while it’s installing…

        • coffee_tacos@mander.xyz
          0·
          16 days ago

          The lock screen and display manager are two separate pieces of software. The display manager runs before a user profile has been selected for graphical login, so it does not have access to your user desktop/display settings

          • Die4Ever@retrolemmy.comEnglish
            3·
            16 days ago

            there’s a button to apply Plasma settings to SDDM for this purpose, it prompts for admin password when you do it, which makes sense

          • kumi@feddit.onlineEnglish
            2·
            16 days ago

            Supposedly both the display manager and greeters have system-wide configuration for this purpose, however. And the issue with notifications and DE overlays are present post login, too.

      • sanpo@sopuli.xyz
        3·
        17 days ago

        What kind of argument is that?

        It’s already in AUR, you can install it right now if you want.

        • khornechips@sh.itjust.works
          112·
          17 days ago

          Right, but since it isn’t based on Fedora, which this post is about, what Fedora is doing has no bearing on what CachyOS uses as its defaults.

          • sanpo@sopuli.xyz
            32·
            17 days ago

            Except they responded to a post talking about an Arch-based distro, so Fedora isn’t relevant here.

    • Excel@lemming.megumin.orgEnglish
      2·
      16 days ago

      Cachy already switched the default to it over a month ago in a beta ISO, but then they reverted it because it wasn’t stable.

    • warmaster@lemmy.worldOP
      1·
      16 days ago

      In Bazzite it’s usually between same day and 24 hours, since the build process is fully automated.

  • Mactan@lemmy.ml
    11·
    17 days ago

    looking forward to it, sddm is the only thing I have left that depends on xorg directly

  • grue@lemmy.world
    8·
    16 days ago

    Fedora will be the first distro? Adopting it even faster than KDE Neon, a distro made by KDE itself?

      • grue@lemmy.world
        3·
        16 days ago

        Ah, TIL. I just figured it was the KDE-est general-purpose distro.

        But still, shouldn’t it at least have a development version of Plasma Login Manager sooner than any others, for testing?

        • unknown1234_5@kbin.earth
          5·
          16 days ago

          it probably does, but it isnt considered a ‘real’ distro since it isnt suitable for non-development use (nor is it meant to be). its a very common misconception about KDE neon to think that since it’s the KDE branded one it must be the best general-purpose KDE distro.

          thats why they are making KDE Linux. KDE Linux is going to be what a lot of people mistakenly take neon to be while also fulfilling the role of ‘development standard implementation/example implementation for distros to reference’ much better.

        • kumi@feddit.onlineEnglish
          2·
          16 days ago

          Did you look this up?

          What do you think is more likely - that KDE Neon does not have a testing version of Plasma Login Manager or that a sensationalistic news headline is not giving you a 100% accurate and complete understanding?

  • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.mlEnglish
    3·
    17 days ago

    Easy Chinese/Japanese/Korean/Vietnamese (CJK) input

    This reminds me of what a pain in the it was for me to get an IME working. I may not be smart, but even accounting for that, it was unnecessarily complicated.

  • Die4Ever@retrolemmy.comEnglish
    1·
    15 days ago

    If you update from 43 to 44, will it still remove SDDM? Or does it get stuck as part of your user config?

    • warmaster@lemmy.worldOP
      2·
      15 days ago

      It will depend on how upstream (Fedora Silverblue) implements it. From my understanding, it will straight up replace it, and remove SDDM.