Zuck has kissed the ring. He will be fine. You can all stop worrying about him now. Barbecue sauce.
That’s just a news bite. He or yuckbook has never ever really been in trouble. It’s vital tool for global surveillance.
Remember Cambridge analytica?rohingya genocide? and other countless controversies?
Zuck helped forge the ring
Fuck Facebook and also this is clearly morphing into a moral panic about social media in a way that is extremely unproductive, dangerous and ultimately a distraction from the actual issues at hand.
Not sure if you’re trying to argue that modern social media is a good thing… Because it really isn’t. All of these platforms are actively detrimental to our mental health and destabilizing society. All of them have their billionaire owners manipulating the algorithms to maximize what they want you to see and minimize opposing views, if not outright removing them (like Meta is doing with the ICE List currently).
All of these platforms are actively detrimental to our mental health and destabilizing society.
According to you? How do you feel about the TikTok takeover? Anxiously awaiting the same for Lemmy?
We have study after study showing various prominent social media platforms are bad for mental health, so that part feels pretty clear
Destabilizing society is a harder one to show, but I’d argue Cambridge Analytica, and similar programs are what got Trump elected in 2016. Social media played a very interesting part in elections in the Philippines as well, due to the inability for most to fact check any information shared on social media (Meta/Facebook provided cell service for free only to their platforms)
It’s undeniable that large numbers of bots are used to shape public perception of topics. Several talks at Black Hat and Defcon have investigated specific attack chains used, and how sock puppets are used to spread specific misinformation
Given those factors, I think it’s fair to say social media is destabilizing society. It’s far too easy for relatively small groups to affect public perception. That isn’t to say propaganda didn’t exist before, just that it’s a far more powerful tool than has ever existed in history
How do you feel about the TikTok takeover?
Obviously negatively, and I think it’s irrational for Americans to feel positively about it. For an average citizen, a foreign country controlling a platform like that should be a good thing. China can’t do anything to me. I don’t have to fear reprisal from China for speaking out against the government. I do have to worry about reprisal from the US
Further, China has far fewer incentives to shape the opinions and discourse of Americans. Obviously they want to push a pro-China message, but that’s a relatively small sub-sect of American politics compared to the issues the US government would like to shape public opinion on
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Massive corporate social media companies and rightwing billionaires are the problem, not social media.
Not sure if you’re trying to argue that modern social media is a good thing… Because it really isn’t.
What are you doing here then?
Lemmy might fit within the technical definition of social media, but don’t be so obtuse as to equate an anonymous community message board with the likes of Facebook and IG that are tied to your identity, and are designed algorithmically to keep you engaged as long as possible while pressuring you to share more and more of your personal life.
The “If social media bad, why on Lemmy?” Thing is the epitome of halfwit false equivalency.
Lemmy might fit within the technical definition of social media, but don’t be so obtuse as to equate an anonymous community message board with the likes of Facebook and IG that are tied to your identity,
Do you really think the state and its fascists care about this differentiation?
They will literally come after Lemmy the first chance that they get. Far more so than insiders like zuck, musk, etc.
And it will be at least partially a result of y’all libs calling for it based on this wacky pseudo-science.
Lemmy might fit within the technical definition of social media, but don’t be so obtuse as to equate an anonymous community message board with the likes of Facebook and IG that are tied to your identity, and are designed algorithmically to keep you engaged as long as possible while pressuring you to share more and more of your personal life.
then use your brain and analyze this deeper than social media = bad
Nobody is interested in seriously engaging with your sophomoric “you criticize society yet you participate in it” nonsense. We get it, you’re 14 and think you’re deep.
Great and I am not interested in being subjected to a moral panic that feels like the logic was laid out by grifters trying to distract from their grift by manipulating gullible idiots to empower them even more.
100%. Haven’t these people been watching what happened to TikTok?
Or are they in denial because they were just as rabid about attacking TikTok?
Good, take your L and leave lol
Y’all are literally calling for this website to be banned for the sake of pseudo-science.
Lots of people are interested in this. Y’all are actively helping the worst.
Naw. I didn’t say anything about banning anything nor about any pseudo-science. No clue what you’re talking about
Who is downvoting this? jfc…
People here are rabid about this “social media” but give a pass to literal fascism.
Getting my fix, now move over.
news networks have been doing this same pretty much since they’ve existed
Humans have been killing each other as long as we’ve existed isn’t an argument to avoid trying to make it happen less
just saying billionaires manipulating shit has been the norm for ages, which is why we used to have media-ownership limits…repealed under Clinton iirc
Agreed, but now they have tools that enable them to do it with unprecedented impact.
In my opinion, the difference is so huge, we might as well think they didn’t manipulate things at all before.
Agreed, but now they have tools that enable them to do it with unprecedented impact.
Yes tools like TikTok that libs lobbied to hand to fascists. Now they want more of the same.
Yeah, by memory Rupert Murdoch had his hand at that and in Aus and the UK. I’d love to see that reined in again too
Murder =/= social media.
It’s pretty sad that I have to say this. People are really losing their minds of this “social media” hype.
🤦♂️ Don’t put words in my mouth to try to make an argument
nah… mark is clearly an international drug dealer and needs to have all his property seized, and then destroyed while he rots in prison.
both things can be true!
moral panic about social media in a way that is extremely unproductive, dangerous and ultimately a distraction from the actual issues at hand.
100%. Yeah that’s the point. If there’s any alternative narrative, hegemony stirs up a panic then takes over control.
Just look at what happened with TikTok. A bunch of obvious fascists started up a campaign. A bunch of liberals and other obvious fascists took it over… Now we have fash tiktok.
The people foaming at the mouth in this comm want to do it all over again with every form of “social media”. It’s gonna be rich when they come for Lemmy.
Disable YT history. Make YT Subscriptions page your home page. Now all you see are the most recent videos from your subscribed channels. You can keep up with them without being distracted by garbage suggestions. It’s a much better experience.
Fucking GOOD. We need these useless companies to fail out and be held responsible for their actions.
Get off that shit.
That lawsuit documents the case of a 19-year-old, K.G.M, who hopes the jury will agree that Meta and YouTube caused psychological harm by designing features like infinite scroll and autoplay to push her down a path that she alleged triggered depression, anxiety, self-harm, and suicidality.
What the hell is everyone watching? YT recommends me Red Letter Media, Veratasium, old movies, Blender tutorials and a bunch of other stuff that’s never going to drive me to self-harm. I don’t understand. May be this woman doesn’t have ad blocker installed and is forced to sit through a bunch of soul crushing PSAs? Why is my experience so drastically different from this?
Truth is these people watch garbage and the algo delivers… garbage.
I’m not trying to victim blame but, i mean… not my YouTube either (but I’ve seen the front pages of some…stupid people too say it nicely).
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Watching those hack frauds causes psychological harm. Rich Evans is known to trigger depression
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Sounds like you consume useful information. I wager she uses socials as many: to compare herself to others, perusing a mix of ego-affirming and ego-damning content. These are powerful emotional hooks and oscillating between those states can be confounding. Add a dash of fatalism, which is not hard to come by in this culture, when at a low, and I think it easy to see how one might capitulate.
There are a lot of people out there that think their personality traits are inherent and that their physical attributes are static. In fact, my brother was one of these people, to an extent. He passed away at 40 years old due to morbid obesity. I attribute his downfall to capitulation by way of comparison. He came to think the hole was too big and that his genetics were too poor to make changes, despite me providing an example to the contrary. Sadly, my parents fanned the flames of his dissonance with their own identity-bound delusions.
So, my guess is that you have developed a healthy personal philosophy and have not surrounded yourself with the type of people or digital content that renders that philosophy dissonant.
Facebook helped to cause Arab Spring. These platforms are responsible for the destruction of civilization under the guise of “connecting everyone”.
I wouldn’t use Arab springs as an example of why Facebook is not a good product. Facebook has many problems and misuses, but I would not list allowing people to organise as one of them.
These platforms are responsible for the destruction of civilization under the guise of “connecting everyone”.
CA discovered how to “hack” people’s minds, then maybe the Russians and Chinese figured it out, and the oligarchy and the lunatic fringe want all in to brainwash the world.
Makes me angry knowing that at anytime a bigger war could break out.
at anytime a bigger war could break out.
Welcome back to the late 1970s / early 1980s I grew up in.
We just learned to live with it- maybe move to a big city for a better chance at instant vaporization.
Meanwhile in 1984: When Doves Cry you might as well Jump, and when the 99 Red Balloons Float by you’ll be sitting pretty in this dust that was a city.
The 80s were anxiety inducing because the specter of war was then high until the Soviet Union collapsed on itself, so throughout the 90s and the naughts a nuke war wasn’t going to happen even with North Korea trying to rattle sabers.
Instead and beginning last year we now have madmen on hair triggers, and if it’s not a third world war, then a prospect of another American civil war where there’s a high potential of causing a global economic catastrophe.
The 90s and the naughts were actually a pretty good time… we did too little to ensure that continued, in so so many ways.
As far as I can tell, advertisement/profit-driven social media that is directly tied to your real identity might actually be the worst thing humanity has ever invented.
Oops!
Turns out we’re mostly vain and stupid, in our default state.
Now amplify.
Oh and as a bonus:
It serves as a kind of self perpetuating auto-panopticon.
It never ceases to amaze me how many people just record thems committing, planning to commit, bragging about committing, or admitting to commiting crimes that can put you away for 5 years plus… on fucking TikTok.
I’ve been saying for a long time that IG is cigarettes
Hey wow its like I’ve been saying that for a decade, but because I’m poor and I say that, clearly I am some kind of antisocial insane person, not somebody who can read a bunch of existing studies and data and form a conclusion.
Corporation would never gaslight you!
… unless you deserved it.
You’ve been making pseudo-scientific statements with no evidence for a decade? Brave.
If only some country would bomb supposed drug smugglers.
Social media is a drug tho. Gotta bomb them too.
Hence the name Insta-crack
Doom them to a modest fine where they will not admit wrongdoing, got it.
Our politicians are taking bribes. All over the world.
What a bunch of nonsensical slop.
Can we please hate billionaires without being absolute nincompoops?
Please? You people are really making us look like fucking idiots.
What do you mean by “you people”? 🤡
Lemmy
As in, I’ve had enough of this crap. The name is apt. What a bunch of fucking Lemmings.
Reddit sucks. Lemmy is no better.
Reckon I’ll just go without.
IG is 100% not a drug.
And those of y’all who are promoting this pseudo-science are part of the problem. Look at what y’all did to TikTok. Wacky liberal lemmings handing the internet over to literal fascists.
Literally nobody mentioning what happened to TikTok after that sinophobic pogram. Peeps are just excited for round 2.
