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I hate to break it to you but… It’s been over 20 years. It’s more retro now than the SNES was when the 360 came out.
You’re hurting me.
This episode is 30 years old.
No u
Shit, that saying is over 20 years old.
YOLO is now old enough to legally drive a car.
You know that ‘Cleopatra is temporally further away from the Great Pyramid’ thing?
Grand Theft Auto V’s release date is closer to Half Life 2’s release date, than to the present.
Grand Theft Auto 4’s release date is closer to the release date of the original Starfox or Street Fighter 2, than it is to the present.
And you don’t even want me to do any date comparison for the following:
… Let’s do the time warp Againnn!~
For everything there is a season and a time for every purpose under heaven.
Spock - Civilization 4 (2005)
Wow the diminishing returns between that time really comes into focus.
I mean yeah. There isn’t that much of a drastic shift in game design, except for the bleeding of RPG mechanics into more genres, more roguelite mechanics in indie games (choose one of 3) and having equipment systems in multiplayer FPSes. The biggest hit of 2024 was basically solitaire.
It’s hardly that much more different.
Wheras, going from snes through ps1 to xbox 360, things went from 2d (and extremely crude 3d) to textured 3d with jank controls to high fidelity games with standardised controls. Not much changed after that. The huge “innovations” of VR, motion controls, are basically niche due to economic factors, so people aren’t exactly having commonplace motion control VR experiences that put them in the game and comparing that to ducking behind cover in gears of war. They’re comparing making cover in Fortnite with ducking behind cover in gears of war.
Right. I bet more people play SNES than Xbox now as well.
I guess if you count emulators and Brazil…
¿Que? The 360 has a LOT of excellent games.
I think they’re agreeing; game tech improved a lot more from the SNES to the 360 than from the 360 to now.
I meant like graphically.
Heres how that works:
Gaming got popular.
Normies like fancy graphics, production value, and are swayed by fake trailers and mass marketing campaigns.
(Doing all that well, in a way that people can actually afford to pay for, is extremely difficult and very expensive)
Corpos discovered they could turn everything into primarily a market for subscriptions and micro transactions, that houses a game, and most normies kept paying for all that untill the economy entered the Second Great Depression.
… its basically Dutch Disease, but for video gaming.
This has fuck all to do with anything I said.
Me then: “Haha ‘time marches on’ what a cool phrase”
Me now: “Yo, time, can we maybe slow the pace or take the break?” Time: “No. Only march on.” Me: visibly aging
I already have Father Time beating my ass before I even started playing Hades II lmao
Frankly, the reason this is shocking to people is that games, graphically and mechanically, made leaps and bounds from the SNES to the 360, and gave largely stagnanted from the 360 to now.
A LOT of people have completely failed to grasp how much technology has stagnated in the last 20 years.
*crumbles into pieces like a Dry Bones*
You’re a generation off: It’s more retro now than the NES (US release) was when the 360 came out. We crossed that threshold about a month ago.
Why…why would you do this
Perhaps I’m in a minority but when the PS3 and 360 first debuted I did not consider even the NES to be “retro”. I would have applied that term to the likes of an Atari 2600 or colecovision.
And noticing that this tweet is already 5 years old is the cherry on top.
It’s now 2026, so Zelda 20 years ago was:
It is over 20 years old… Fuck.
If you had asked me before I looked it up, I probably would’ve placed the original Xbox at 20 years old. Time is flying by.
There’s more time between the release of the 360 and (picking a random game that released this week) Pathologic 3, than there is between then and the release of Super Mario Bros on the NES
Keep in mind the launch model of the 360 didn’t have an HDMI port, most people still had a CRT, and it didn’t even come with component cables, there was only a composite lead in the box, you had to pay extra for component cables if you wanted them.
Wake up, gen z boys and girls. You are not kids anymore. You are old af.
Amazing console that can be easily softmodded nowadays. mine has a 1tb hdd attached, with over 200 games (incl. ~1/3 from xbox classic). I’ve been using it more than the PS4 or Steam, until I modded my PS4 too recently
The 360 was released in 2005. That’s over 20 years ago. Yes, they would be considered classics at this point. And know what, I wish more folks younger than myself discovered how gaming WAS and realize what it’s turned into.
Well, it’s over 20 years old now, so probably. It’s also really easy to softmod recently. Last year I got one for $25 at a thrift shop and modded it, so it’s also a great time to get one.
So far, I only played Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie on it though, and messed around a bit with the first release of Minecraft Xbox 360 Edition.
Can you get XBL Arcade games running on it? Half the games I’d want to play were on the arcade rather than disc games.
I actually only tested XBLA games, so yeah!
Nice
Is the softmod on it persistent between reboots? Last I looked into it you had to run the exploit every time.
Yep, that’s still true. However, you can install ABadAvatar onto a USB stick which will run the exploit automatically upon startup. It usually takes about a minute for the exploit to successfully start and occasionally crashes (only happened to me once).
It’s 21 years old this year 😭
Take solace that old != obsolete.
I still play Just Cause 2, Fallout 3 and a bunch of 360 GOATs
Halo 3, Portal, and Super Mario Galaxy released closer to the launch of the Sega Genesis, the original Gameboy, and the fall of the Berlin Wall than today.
I’m only in my early thirties wtf
I’ll only accept a console is retro if you can emulate it playably on a phone.
I need to re-cap my childhood Turbografx, so my toddler can experience some family Dungeon Explorer. She’s the age I was when my parents bought it.
The Xbox 360 is as old now as the NES was when it came out.
Depending on how pedantic you want to be, that is for the United States release. The Famicom was released summer 1983 in Japan and the NES is generally considered the localized version for North America.
It’s still true to within a year or two anyway.
I still have an OG Wii. That thing is a BEAST, even today.
In my opinion, no. For me it’s not about time, 360 for the most part plays just like any other present day console. Only difference is that development and marketing budgets went out of control (a trend that was already underway during later seventh generation), and the relentless stream of CoD, Halo and GTA clones stopped (THANK GOODNESS FOR THAT).
I can still remember I think some new grounds stick figure type animated comic, made back when it was Macromedia Flash, not Adobe Flash, and it was mocking the idea of 20 years in the future we would have Call of Duty 16.
… I think if you actually count them numerically we are now beyond 20.
… 24 mainline games, apparently.
Hey Saints Row 3 was actually funny
Jump, same. For me it starts at N64 era.
GTA clones stopped (THANK GOODNESS FOR THAT).
I mean, open world games are commonplace. It’s like saying “doomclones” stopped. Yeah, they became fpses.
but on the other hand “realistic crime open world games” kinda gta knockoffs were more commonplace back then.
Unfortunately, somehow, gta feels like a gta knockoff. I didn’t even finish V, and the satire just seemed less biting, and late to the punch. Like the jokes it was making had already been made elsewhere, so it felt stale and done before.
These two cases aren’t the same though. Doom built a whole new genre by building on Wolf 3D’s foundation, it just didn’t have a name at the time. Very few 90s fps games actually play like Doom, or even try to. They all got their own thing going.
GTA clones definitely wanted to be like GTA, I can tell by just looking at them. I didn’t play any GTA inspired games besides Retro City Rampage so I don’t know which titles in particular deserve to be seen as knockoffs but they were out there.
