GOD can you imagine paying 140 dollars for an ai generated OS with ads? could never be me
A gif? On lemmy? How queer
They used to not work well as uploads (and/or I just didn’t know what I was doing), but since this one seems fine, maybe I’ll start posting them more. I don’t really have a smooth process for creating gifs on my phone.
The cost is the time you will spend learning how to use it and debug issues (mostly copying and pasting strange commands from strangers on old forum posts)
What shits me with Linux commands is they don’t make sense.
Copy, diskpart, dir and so on make sense.
But Linux. Bah.
Cp, lsblk (sudo fdisk -l) and ls.
I know it’s an a old dog thing but having used dos and windows command line for over 50 years it just makes me so frustrated to see Linux commands and their switches, syntax and parameters so obtusely obscure, purposeful, unnecessarily filled with complex jargon.
I write sql and python so I’m not unused to this sort of world but everytime I use Linux I find the command line, the supposedly masterful feature of the OS, just painfully, unnecessarily, poorly designed.
copying and pasting strange commands from strangers on old forum posts)
Yes exactly the only way to obtain the help is via weird forums where you waste hours reading posts from people trying to do basic shit. Half the time it’s for the wrong distro, version or whatever bullshit problem you’ve got.
Like godforbid you want to mount a drive that won’t mount in the GUI version of whatever kernal distro ver you end up getting.
You end up writing ridiculously long commands to do shit I can do in a handful of words that make sense in plain English.
Just shits me that MS is hellbent on enshitificating windows, forcing us to find alt.
What choice do we have anymore
I mean, diskpart and dir don’t make especially any more sense than lsblk/parted and ls. A fair point can be made for ‘copy’ being more intuitive, but ‘diskpart’ means you had to learn what disks and partitioning were, and lsblk means you need to learn what ‘block’ devices rae, and of course ‘parted’ references partitions. ‘dir’ means you wanted to ‘show the directory’ which means you had to learn of it as a directory, but then learn that the shortname of directory is the way to see the contents of a directory. ls means you learned you want to ‘list’ contents and that unix had this laziness of just the first and third letters of a word. Both involve learning, neither is ‘intuitive’.
You end up writing ridiculously long commands
I assume this is the likes of dbus-send and crap, and I agree with you if that’s the case. Dbus is a complication I could do without and have to confess that powershell cmdlets generally do a better job of instrumenting the system than a system that increasingly has no specific help and only long dbus-send commands to tackle certain things. dconf has issues too, but I think does a better job than the Windows registry at analagous function.
I’m the same, but with windows.
People just don’t like changing their ways.
Also you’ll find out that linux is mostly much more logical than windows ever was.
I understand your issue with the terminal. I think that it could be fixed with Oh-my-zsh for a personal computer. I have mine setup so I don’t have to remember the entire command, just the first letter and it shows me all matches. I was proficient with both batch and powershell, but bash scripting is even easier.
Yeah, I had given up Linux for over a decade, but Windows 11 has brought it back out… And tbh I like it better as an adult. Now I run Windows in a docker container only.
Or using LLMs. For common problems they give good answers. But for niche problems one should double check what the proposed commands actually do.
You just summarised the pain I have with troubleshooting Linux. As a pleb, I am happy with Bazzite being user friendly.
This is why I appreciate immutable distros so much. Sure, you can’t really do super sick stuff by tinkering with system files or modify some system components to make it your dream system, but the average user really doesn’t need that. In most use cases, the flatpak version of a software will just run fine, sometimes even better than the standalone version due to certain outdated dependencies being hard to acquire/install that the Flatpak just integrates. Sure, Flatpak also has issues, but for the most part it works for the end user.
I haven’t actually needed to do much of that. Very little actually. And when I did it was just a trivial copy-paste
Instead of an end user you shall have an ADMIN! NOT BEHOLDEN TO MICROSOFT BUT BEAUTIFUL AND TERRIBLE AS THE DAWN! POWERFUL AS THE SEA! ALL PROGRAMS WILL WORK FOR ME AND DESPAIR!
I asked her for one desktop environment from her golden head. She gave me a handful.
I encased it in a dot file and enshrined it in my git, to be handed down to all my descendants (People that say hey cool desktop may I have your dotfiles?)
To be honest: Windows has been free (for home users) for a while now. To be brutally honest: Most of the users who’ve abandoned Microslop did so with free plugged into the value proposition.
Free as in freedom AND beer :)
Gotta love a free product that also does not suck.
If something is free, then you’re either the product, or the beta tester. But since paid software is getting worse and worse, being the beta tester is a good alternative.
And somehow in Windows they managed to make people pay for it and be the product.
All while technically selling alpha versions…
In the case of Linux, especially the ones without a business built around them (e.g. Debian), they’re more like mutual aid. They’re not looking to sell it or exfiltrate your data in the future, after the “beta.”
Massgrave says it’s actually $Free.99
Absolutely brilliant. 👍
Thanks! I assumed there would be plenty of community crossover to appreciate it.
Yeah but… If it’s not enough -> you also don’t pay with your data ;)
Don’t tempt me, Picard Maneuver! I dare not take it, not even to keep it safe. Understand, sir, I would use this OS from a desire to do good, but through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine. I should have power too great and terrible, and over me the OS would gain a power still greater and more deadly.
Counterpoint:
Macroslop Wangblows: pay $139 for OS, get locked in, don’t learn anything, get abused, get exploited
Gigachad Linux: invest time, become smarter, become more independent, help fight enshittification, help your country’s tech Independence, help the OS get better, help distribute real improvements to other users, etc
