• LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz
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    I love how these models apologize like they mean it. It doesn’t mean it. It doesn’t feel bad, and it will do it again.

    Apologies mean “I made a mistake and I learned from it so it won’t repeat.”

    Sure it claims it added more notes to it’s config, but if it ignored the rules before, what makes you think that new rules are going to change anything?

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      Apologies mean “I made a mistake and I learned from it so it won’t repeat.”

      yeah enough humans don’t know that as well unfortunately. But yeah obviously LLMs don’t understand anything. That’s not how they work

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      it is made to copy how humans write and speak

      the AI had been scored for how good it learned from humans to sound sorry

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      Apologies mean “I made a mistake and I learned from it so it won’t repeat.”

      At best it might not make the same mistake again if that memory is in the current context. But more likely: It will not remember.

      Although latest Gemini in particular has much more room for “remembering” things, still.

      But “I made a mistake”? It is not self-aware in any way shape or form to the degree where “I made a mistake” carries any real meaning.

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        But… but… it generates text that seems like a human wrote it!

        Therefore it must be a human!

        … A whole lot of humans are failing a reverse turing test, just, fundamentally.

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      If anything its context includes that it makes mistakes now and details about them. The mostly output is to create the same mistakes again

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      Yeah, I personally wouldn’t be announcing this failure to the world if I were in her position. I don’t think you could torture it out of me lmao

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        Maybe they want to get this out there as cover if/when some regulator somewhere decides to subpoena records from the AI safety director.

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      It’s Meta, her experience is probably an MBA and she did a side course in “computing” where they learnt how to use Excel.

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    you can like… enforce this rule programatically? you don’t have to say “pretty please” to ai? basically, when AI requests some potentially unwanted thing (like deleting an email), this request goes through a proxy that asks the human for confirmation. Also you can have a safe word set up in the chat interface to act as a killswitch. I thought these are ABCs of ai safety but apparently these are foreign concepts to this “safety director”

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      The people that design AI tools don’t implement guardrails because then they’d have to admit AI is not ready for the shit they’re trying to make

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        AI will never be ready. Humans aren’t ready either. That’s why IT staff uses guardrails for users :)

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      OpenClaw’s whole thing is that you give it unrestricted access to your Computer and online accounts. It’s made for people who do not want to think about safety.

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      You say that, but who do you think the AIs will go after first if they ever do develop actual intelligence? In that scenario, simple manners can go a long way!

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    I hate how Apple users feel the need to call their computer by the brand. It really makes me cringe.

    It is called “a computer”

    Maybe “PC”

    “box” if you really have to flex that UNIX

    They should treat their computers less like a sports car and more like a van

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      I mean, isnt that the entire point of Apple? Brand recognition and percieved status attributed to said brand. Its like rappers and gucci belts or country artists and ford pickups

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        Every time someone organically refers to their computer as an Apple or Mac, an Apple marketing executive creams their pants.

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          …thats kind of how branding has always been under capitalism to a certain extent. Get people to think your brand is the best so they buy more instead of whatever is convenient. It has definitely gotten more extreme but i think that has more to do with the applications of what we are talking about.

          Cell phones are embedded into nearly every aspect of our lives. So the brand symbolism carries that weight for people too.

          Previously, brands like cocacola still had a death grip on society but it was one specific sector. So while it created a sort of cult vibe, it was definitely different.

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            I get what you are saying and generally agree, but!

            It actually was not always the way it is now.

            Play RDR2.

            Look at the advertisements for things, actually read them.

            They’re actually pretty accurate to the advertisements of the time.

            They are extremely based on ‘facts’, convicing the prospective buyer that the product is the best product, is very useful, can do this, is unique in this way.

            Of course, sometimes the ‘facts’ are lies… but the general idea is not to sell a … emotion, or personality, or element of identity, or sense of belonging.

            Its almost always to convince the buyer that this product is useful to them, and is priced reasonably for what it can do.

            The turning point away from this was mostly or largely due to Edward Bernaise, the nephew of Sigmund Freud.

            More or less, he applied Freud’s ideas and some of his own, some of others, to marketing.

            His first big hit was angling Cigarettes as ‘Torches of Freedom’ to suffragettes.

            At that point in time, smoking tobacco was generally seen as disgusting and low class for women, but not for men.

            So, he was basically the first guy that went around and paid people to smoke cigarettes, while being trendy, with pre-designed slogans.

            … It worked.

            Because he was selling identity, not products, and this is much more effective.

            Prior to that… brands basically were just built on the reputation of their products.

            Now… now its so insane that for many say, video games and movies… far more time of the entire experience of the product is the hype train, the controversy, the twitter wars… prior to the product even coming out.

            And then, its often just a flash in the pan.

            But… you will still have dedicated fans, ongoing internet arguments, for literal years, even decades, since the last time anyone involved actually viewed or played the product.

            Thats all designed for, to maximize the chances of that happening.

            Marketing literally is applied psychology.

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        In slight fairness to them the Mac mini isn’t actually pretty decent PC, unlike their laptops which are absolutely not worth the money. Although maybe these days $400 for 16 gigabytes of RAM is actually market value.

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    “The bot ate my homework” is quickly becoming more plausible than the customary canine culprit.

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    They released a version recently that fixed over 60 security vulnerabilities. All of them were high or critical.

    How many more are there to find? Thousands?

    Whoever uses this on a PC with anything useful on it, is absolutely insane.

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    Yep that’s about the level of intelligence I would expect from Meta’s AI safety director.

    Doing the one thing that you’re never supposed to do, letting an AI loose on anything sensitive.

    For her next trick she’s going to run while holding scissors in one hand and a bottle of boiling acid in the other. What could go wrong.

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    I love so much that there are real, hilarious consequences for overzealous early adoption. You can’t make this shit up.

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      Problem:

      This is the exact same kind of shit being used to automate prioritize and execute military kill-chains.

      Basically: Finda target, tell others about the target, assess nearby firepower capable of neutralizing the target, determine best course of action.

      … all we have to do is cross that last step over into ‘and then execute that course of action’.

      All the drone warfare in Ukraine?

      EM jamming and literally hacking the things or their CnC systems is an effective counter, in certain situations.

      So, how do you counter that?

      One solution is keep an actual thin wire, like a TOW missile, connecting the operator and the drone. Gotta be a real long wire though.

      Other solution?

      Make the drone fully autonomous once its been locked in to a specific plan.

      Don’t worry though, I’m sure Pete Hegseth will navigate this tightrope about as well as traffic stop line walk test.

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      These people aren’t early adopters. These people are doing the equivalent of putting a lump of uranium in a bucket, and calling it a nuclear reactor.

      AI is our version of the demon core, and these idiots are dicking around with it with zero safety precautions.

      Meanwhile the rest of us are just smart enough to not go in that room.

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    She’s lucky all she got were some deleted emails.
    Given how insecure this whole ordeal is and the fact that she gave it full access to her REAL Inbox, someone could have phished the ever living fuck out of her and Meta just by sending an email with malicious prompt written on white text or hiding messages zero-width characters and other wacky antics.
    Real Looney Tunes shit, congratulations to all involved.

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      You wouldn’t even need to hide it since apparently she wasn’t paying attention.

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    Imagine how much a Director at Meta is being paid to be this fucking stupid. Jesus lawn mowing Christ.