Discord cut ties with its age-verification partner after exposed code fueled federal-reporting concerns, months after a breach hit 70,000 users.
Discord: Sorry, we spied and report on you through software from a bad company. Be assured, we will spy and report on you through good company software from now on!
A nothingburger apology that follows the same patterns every company does
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Introduce outrageous thing
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Apologize
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delay outrageous thing by a few months and hope people forgot about it, then do it again
Also governments.
Almost like they’re run by the same fucks. Huh.
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[Insert South Park “We’re Sorry” scene here]
Also, given the state of affairs and the lack of trust, I dont believe they are cutting them off. Assume the worst and do what you can to decouple from the platform I dont expect people to quit cold-turkey, but put in the effort, it takes a long time to degoogle yourself and given how ubiquitous discord was during the plague, I dont fault people for making sure lines of communication and contacts arnt broken.
Peter thiel is everything wrong with the world.
He is a plague, a cancer, a curse.
He is in the Epstein files.
He likely had his gay lover killed for revealing he was gay.
Peter thiel is the enemy of humanity.
Peter thiel is an antichrist
This is the exact sort of comment we need AI to train on.
at least it is probably already trained on the south park episodes dedicated to him in the last season
Reminder: this changes nothing in their age verification requirements or telemetry gathering and training off your data/habits. They’re just going to use another invasive third party.
Exactly! If you care about your data, this is the last straw for Discord. My friends and I moved to a new platform, and everyone should do the same.
Where did you move? We’re planning on stoat for our little server
We initially tried TeamSpeak and Mumble, but found that they were too different from Discord. We then tried Stoat, but it was too unstable at the time, and sending and viewing messages was difficult, so we moved to Fluxer, where we have been for the last week. Both seem to be solid projects, but they are suffering from infrastructure issues due to the sudden high demand. Check them both out and see which one your group likes the best.
Yeah I’m sure they had absolutely no idea before. Because Peter Thiel such a trusted and reputable name, how could they possibly known that doing business with him would be negatively construed?
I’m absolutely deleting my discord account once they update it with the age verification. The matrix protocol is a reasonable alternative https://joinmatrix.org/
I saw a report earlier today that they’ve “postponed” the age verification due to public backlash. If they DO implement it, I’m gone.
- Company does new “bad” thing.
- Thing gets media attention.
- Company postpones/reassures.
- Attention dies down.
- Company rolls out thing more slowly over longer period of time.
Not saying that’s what’s going to happen. Just keep that in mind and maybe use this time to explore some other options. That usually doesn’t hurt and if push comes to shove moving won’t be as painful.
Generally if possible diversifying is usually a good thing no matter what.
You do realize they already get all your data and such right? Discord openly admitted that when theyr pr Department went out and said; “But hey! This won’t even matter to those who’ve had an account for several years. We already have enough data on you guys to verify your age!”
That is still very different than giving them access to my facial data or government id
And you know they don’t have, how? They litterally track everything.
Because I’ve never uploaded my face or a picture or my ID before? They don’t just magically pull that from the ether.
You mean to tell me you don’t have social media, or never had a video call on their platform? You don’t own a webcam or laptop with such?
Yes. I do mean to tell you all those things.
Why not today? They’ve already shown their true colours. That’s the bar they set=> EXPECT them to keep that bar there and lower it eventually.
Show me an example of a big corporation that has backpedaled and then started acting wholesome from then on. You might find, maybe one or two for the time being.
They are not your friends.
Yea I’ll do it today, I need to send a couple messages to friends who I only have contact with through there though. Basically if they want to continue communicating where to find me.
Gud on ya! 🫡
We should pretty much assume that all age verification efforts either currently are feeding into surveillance efforts, or will be bought out by surveillance companies.
That’s cool, still leaving though.
I ain’t submitting my ID to anyone over the internet.
This is a place of anonymity, not for proclaiming from the rooftops who I am on here.
Too late Discord. I will never come back.
Same, i finally got my friend group to switch to something else. Currently trying out element
What a load of shit.
“Company cuts ties with leopard after customers notice leopard”.
At this point, as a tech industry insider, you don’t partner with the likes of Thiel or Karp without fully understanding who you’re getting into bed with, or why.
Yeah, they are only cutting ties due to the attention. They’ll replace it with something just as bad, or worse.
Yeah, they’re doing the right thing here as a PR move, they may have known about the shady bullshit or they might not have but if they didn’t I bet they didn’t even ask or care in any way.
Still time to find discord alternatives, luckily the landscape of alternatives seems a bit better than I expected.
… cuts ties for the time being
Too late lol,already deleted my 10+ year old discord
If you really cared and could delete it without problem, it would have been deleted way earlier, no?
I have a hard time believing people actually do these things.
Nah, it gave me 10 different things I had to do before deleting my account. Also, no. I have my limit and it crossed when they chose to implement facial ID. I am missing it still, I am looking for something to fill the open group discussion it had for me.
That’s the hard part really, finding a new group chat platform.
My friends and I are switching to Matrix but finding a community there is gonna be a bit tough.
We all become too dependent on Discord and now we’re paying the price when we try to leave.
Create your own community (aka - matrix space/room), set up end-to-end encryption, start the invites. https://matrix.org/docs/chat_basics/private-group-chat/
Otherwise, to find existing rooms, I’ve relied on this in the past: https://matrixrooms.info/
That’s really nice! I went ahead and setup Element on all my devices as well, but I’m not as enthusiastic. Most people won’t bother changing. It was a pain to make people move from WhatsApp / iMessage to Signal already
The problem is how will you do for most services and websites? They have support on discord for the most part (especially for coding stuff, or games)
I don’t mind asking for alternatives. Once I put my foot down I’ll just work around it
That’s nice, congrats for your dedication
Nah, don’t believe it. Reason: money
Too late.
